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Re: Today's call: summary on user agent compliance

From: イアンフェッティ <ifette@google.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:34:47 -0700
Message-ID: <CAF4kx8cJ23SbEuow1Qma_yfD2UC8XktR2yCWv62Ok-ctORY24w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Peter Cranstone <peter.cranstone@gmail.com>
Cc: Nicholas Doty <npdoty@w3.org>, "Dobbs, Brooks" <brooks.dobbs@kbmg.com>, Justin Brookman <jbrookman@cdt.org>, public-tracking@w3.org
What are the units for that time? That looks suspiciously like just the
current time.

Right now (time of this email) the time since the epoch is 1339601660
seconds since the epoch.

I think what you posted as REQUEST_TIME was simply the current time, not
any processing time.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Peter Cranstone

> I just posted the hit.
> REQUEST_TIME = 1339601438
> How many people are actually doing Mobile UA detection? 10,000 companies?
> There are now close to 650m Web servers out there. It's minuscule.
> UA detection is one thing, checking back to a blacklist that may or may
> not be up to date is something completely different.
> And if you're already supporting DNT then why the heck would you reject
> MSIE 10 anyway?
> Peter
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> From: "Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)" <ifette@google.com>
> Reply-To: <ifette@google.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: Peter Cranstone <peter.cranstone@gmail.com>
> Cc: Nicholas Doty <npdoty@w3.org>, "Dobbs, Brooks" <brooks.dobbs@kbmg.com>,
> Justin Brookman <jbrookman@cdt.org>, W3 Tracking <public-tracking@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Today's call: summary on user agent compliance
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Peter Cranstone <
> peter.cranstone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> But there are cases you can detect where the setting was, more likely
>> than not, NOT set by the user.
>> Again ­ you'll have to show me the code that does this. I've already
>> posted mine to the forum.
>> Microsoft were smart ­ the real compliance issue at stake here is "WHO"
>> set the flag. I would argue that you can not determine that with anywhere
>> near the accuracy required to deliver a consistent online experience. And
>> even if you could the performance hit on the servers is so huge that no
>> admin would ever make those changes.
> What you claim is a "huge performance hit on the servers" is something
> that almost every large site is already doing to redirect mobile users to a
> specific site, tell IE6 users they're unsupported, etc.
Received on Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:35:16 UTC

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