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Re: DNT:0

From: イアンフェッティ <ifette@google.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:03:14 -0700
Message-ID: <CAF4kx8cxmSo59e2sLor-YZvD-j3PPcoSSkvjF-19o1N+4oD7TA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org Group WG" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Shane,

The W3C terminology is "recommendation" -- the W3C will never call this a
"standard", the final state of a document in W3C is "recommendation", that
said i don't really care that much.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:

> Ian,****
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> I would replace “recommendation” with “standard” assuming this document
> becomes one.****
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> “Upon receiving a request with DNT:0, a site may assume the user has
> provided them with explicit consent to operate as normal and continue with
> its standard data collection, retention, and use practices including but
> not limited to the placement and reading of cookies and personalization
> services.  Additionally, restrictions placed on the collection and use of
> data by this standard shall not apply to any data received as part of a
> request with a DNT:0 signal.”****
>
> - Shane****
>
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> *From:* Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) [mailto:ifette@google.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:56 AM
>
> *To:* Shane Wiley
> *Cc:* public-tracking@w3.org Group WG
> *Subject:* Re: DNT:0****
>
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> Shane, that seems fine. Do you have any objection to the part of the text
> stating "Additionally, restrictions placed on the collection and use of
> data by this recommendation shall not apply to any data received as part of
> a request with a DNT:0 signal."****
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> ****
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> Ian,****
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> That’s fair – then let’s state it in that manner and add a “including but
> not limited to” to provide flexibility but address the two key business
> practices head-on.****
>
> “Upon receiving a request with DNT:0, a site may assume the user has
> provided them with explicit consent to operate as normal and continue with
> its standard data collection, retention, and use practices including but
> not limited to the placement and reading of cookies and personalization
> services.”****
>
> - Shane****
>
> *From:* Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) [mailto:ifette@google.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:46 AM
> *To:* Shane Wiley
> *Cc:* public-tracking@w3.org Group WG
> *Subject:* Re: DNT:0****
>
>  ****
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> I guess the problem i have is that "normal" and "standard practices" may
> not be clear, e.g. what does that mean in Europe where regulators are
> trying to say "normal" is "nothing unless the user consents?" -- I was
> trying to get at DNT:0 == consent.****
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> ****
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> Suggest we remove discussion of specific business practices since those
> are still under debate (akin to a definition for “tracking”) and simply
> state that DNT:0 means a site may operate as normal.****
>
>  ****
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> “Upon receiving a request with DNT:0, a site may operate as normal and
> continue with its standard data collection, retention, and use practices.”
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> - Shane****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) [mailto:ifette@google.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:18 AM
> *To:* public-tracking@w3.org Group WG
> *Subject:* DNT:0****
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>  ****
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> This is meant to satisfy ISSUE-148 and ACTION-208 (definition of DNT:0)***
> *
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> "Upon receiving a request with DNT:0, a site may reasonably interpret such
> a request as consent for personalization of content based on the user's
> identity or activity that the server may be aware of or become aware of,
> and the collection and retention of such activity, as well as consent to
> such mechanisms as may be required to collect said activity, including, but
> not limited to, the use of cookies. Additionally, restrictions placed on
> the collection and use of data by this recommendation shall not apply to
> any data received as part of a request with a DNT:0 signal."****
>
>  ****
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