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RE: User intended interactions [1st & 3rd Parties]

From: TOUBIANA, VINCENT (VINCENT) <Vincent.Toubiana@alcatel-lucent.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:05:00 +0100
To: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, Tom Lowenthal <tom@mozilla.com>
CC: "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
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I think the point here  - and the big difference with example 11 -  is that the user knows that he'll go through "bit.ly" redirection and decides to click on the link. Bit.ly could legitimately be viewed as a first party providing a redirection service. 
If we say that “bit.ly” is a third party, then we should say the same of all ad-networks who redirect users clicking on ads.

Also, every website could know from which site a visitor comes and where he goes when he clicks on an outbound link.



>10. A user sees a tweet which says "Check out this awesome NYT article
>bit.ly/1234". The user clicks the link, expecting to be redirected by
>bitly to the New York Times. Twitter, bitly and the New York Times are
>all first parties to this interaction.

If you tell bit.ly you do not want to be tracked, and they install a
userid cookie on your computer and record all the bit.ly links you
click, where you clicked them and where they took you, then they are
not tracking you across sites because they are a first party? That
does not make sense to me.
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