Re: Absolute region positioning (was Re: Alternative approach to scrolling, with demos)

SGTM

Cheers,
Silvia.
On 11 May 2014 08:21, "Christian Vogler" <christian.vogler@gallaudet.edu>
wrote:

> That's on my to-do list. It's going to take me a while, tough, because I
> also need to run them by consumers. Hopefully sometime week.
>
> Sent from my mobile phone.  Please excuse any touchscreen-induced
> weirdness.
> On May 10, 2014 6:09 PM, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How about you describe the use cases one by one and we make example
>> WebVTT files that show them working. Then, when we find one that we can't
>> make to work, we can change the spec.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Silvia.
>> On 10 May 2014 00:46, "Christian Vogler" <christian.vogler@gallaudet.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How much time do we have to do this work, given the timeline of the W3C
>>> processes?  I have been talking to consumer advocates in the US and there
>>> are some complicated issues about readability and rendering expectations
>>> that will take us time to work through and verify that WebVTT meets them.
>>> Some specific edge cases also might be more important than some previously
>>> thought.
>>>
>>> The best thing to resolve these issues would be to have easily
>>> accessible visual renderings of how the different proposals affect the
>>> referring of text in various use cases. I presume there are some scattered
>>> here and there across the bug tracker, but having or working on something
>>> consolidated that I can point folks who consume captions for a living at,
>>> and tell them to let us know what they think would be hugely helpful.
>>>
>>> I'm going to have to follow up again due to lack of time right now, but
>>> I'm also concerned about the metadata aspects of the proposed changes.
>>>
>>> More later.
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile phone.  Please excuse any touchscreen-induced
>>> weirdness.
>>> On May 9, 2014 10:33 AM, "Philip Jägenstedt" <philipj@opera.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > So what are the model features that may need to be brought into
>>>> WebVTT? In
>>>> > no particular order:
>>>> > 1. Independent timing of regions, e.g. so that they can be painted
>>>> even
>>>> > when they don't contain text.
>>>> > 2. Ability to select for styling purposes regions including setting
>>>> > background and line painting colors, padding and zIndex (to define
>>>> > painting order if multiple regions overlap). The ::cue-region
>>>> > pseudo-element appears to partially fulfil this already.
>>>> > 3. Ability to select for styling purposes text contained within a
>>>> > particular region.
>>>> > 4. Ability to assign metadata additional to identifiers for regions.
>>>> (need
>>>> > use cases for this in a WebVTT context)
>>>>
>>>> My current focus is on simplifying regions as much as possible.
>>>> However, if you have strong use cases for any of these additions,
>>>> please do file new bugs. Example videos or video frames to illustrate
>>>> would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Philip
>>>>
>>>>