- From: Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:41:58 -0800
- To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Cc: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>, Richard Eyre <rick.eyre@hotmail.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, "public-texttracks@w3.org" <public-texttracks@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <0A965DBB-1A63-401E-A93A-A38F09134E8A@gmail.com>
Good afternoon, I've uploaded the VTT tutorial to the Wiki. Wiki formatting feedback is greatly appreciated. I'll be uploading a draft to the blog in a day or two. Carlos On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: > Hi, Carlos– > > You can upload the content whenever you like! If you need help with the process, I can lend a hand. Let me know what you need to get started. If you like, we can even set up a phone/skype call or IRC session to tackle it. > > Regards- > -Doug > > On 1/12/14 1:19 PM, Carlos Araya wrote: >> Doug, >> >> Let me know when to upload the content. >> >> I'll be happy to write the blog post :) >> >> Carlos >> >> On Jan 12, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Carlos– >>> >>> I think it should be under multimedia [1], which makes me realize that we should have multimedia as a top-level topic on our landing page [2]. >>> >>> Also, are you interested in writing a post for our blog about your contribution, and about VTT (the history, the tech, the use cases, the market and competition, etc.)? >>> >>> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/tutorials/multimedia >>> [2] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page >>> >>> Regards- >>> -Doug >>> >>> On 1/11/14 7:48 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: >>>> Also, I think we should really add a link to the spec at >>>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/ . ;-) >>>> And also to the community group at http://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/ . >>>> >>>> If you're keen, feel free to add the following links, too: >>>> >>>> * http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/track/basics/ - intro to text >>>> tracks >>>> * https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/WebVTT-with-regions - polyfill >>>> experiments by editor >>>> * >>>> http://wiki.webmproject.org/webm-metadata/temporal-metadata/webvtt-in-webm >>>> - specification for embedding WebVTT into WebM >>>> * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-12 - >>>> specification for using WebVTT as part of HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) >>>> * >>>> http://concolato.wp.mines-telecom.fr/2013/07/28/webvtt-mp4-files-dash-and-gpac/ >>>> - WebVTT in MP4 >>>> (which reminds me that a section on in-band WebVTT may be another useful >>>> addition to the page) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Silvia. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ah excellent - I thought you might have missed it because I didn't >>>> receive a reply email. ;-) >>>> >>>> Anyway, I just checked and found some typos that you may want to >>>> correct: >>>> >>>> 1. Typo: missed a "by" >>>> s/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time one or more SPACE or >>>> TAB characters/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time by one >>>> or more SPACE or TAB characters/ >>>> >>>> 2. Non-readable sentences: >>>> "Using timestamp tags can build Karaoke Style tracks." >>>> I think you mean something like: >>>> "Timestamp tags can be used to build Karaoke style tracks." >>>> >>>> 3. Typo: missed "are" >>>> s/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On captions, which >>>> placed independently from each other and don't erase what was >>>> already on the screen/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On >>>> captions, which are placed independently from each other and don't >>>> erase what was already on the screen/ >>>> >>>> Other than that, it's really looking awesome! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Silvia. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Carlos Araya >>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Silvia, >>>> >>>> Yes, I incorporated all feedback received on this thread into >>>> the document. Is there something I missed? >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>> >>>>> I gave you feedback on the other thread - has that been >>>>> incorporated? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Silvia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think I'm good with the tutorial. It could use one more >>>>> round of feedback before moving it to the WPD site. >>>>> >>>>> That bring another question, what is the best place for >>>>> the VTT tutorial within the WPD doc web site? I haven't >>>>> made up my mind if it falls under HTML, Accessibility or >>>>> general web concepts. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jay, >>>>> >>>>> I added the links as notes to the supported browsers >>>>> table. Can you think of a better placement for the links? >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jay Munro >>>>> <jaymunro@microsoft.com >>>>> <mailto:jaymunro@microsoft.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looks good, though here's a bit more: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Under IE, you've got documentation on the HTML5 >>>>> Rocks site. While a good site, Microsoft has a lot >>>>> of Text Track docs, with a number of examples. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is our technology start page: >>>>> >>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ie/bg123962.aspx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here's where all the API docs are. The text track >>>>> API is mixed in with the audio/video/media elements. >>>>> >>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/ie/hh772500.aspx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There's a set of text track samples here, >>>>> including one that uses meta data to create a >>>>> slide show. MSDN locks us out of actually having >>>>> the demo online, so it might be a good candidate >>>>> to put on WebPlatform. >>>>> >>>>> http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lastly, though a little dated, there's a demo on >>>>> ietestdrive.com <http://ietestdrive.com/> that has >>>>> an editor that will create WebVTT files (as well >>>>> as TTML files). I've been meaning to get around to >>>>> an update, but things have been busy. >>>>> >>>>> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Graphics/CaptionMaker/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> IE HTML5 Timed Text Track sample in JavaScript, >>>>> HTML for Visual Studio 2010 >>>>> The examples shown here use the HTML5 track >>>>> element, and show you how to add video with >>>>> captioning and other features to your webpages. >>>>> Read more... >>>>> <http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:59 AM >>>>> *To:* Richard Eyre >>>>> *Cc:* Silvia Pfeiffer; David Singer; >>>>> public-webplatform@w3.org >>>>> <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>; >>>>> public-texttracks@w3.org >>>>> <mailto:public-texttracks@w3.org>; Doug Schepers >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: VTT authoring guide on Web Platform >>>>> Docs? >>>>> Richard, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the feedback. >>>>> >>>>> I've updated the information regarding Firefox >>>>> Nightly and added vtt.js to the lists of players >>>>> and polyfills. >>>>> >>>>> What bug should I track for Cue formatting issues? >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Richard Eyre >>>>> <rick.eyre@hotmail.com >>>>> <mailto:rick.eyre@hotmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if this got through to the list >>>>> so if it did, apologies. I don't mean to spam >>>>> the list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looks good at a quick pass Carlos. Two things: >>>>> >>>>> * Firefox Nightly is enabled by default now. A >>>>> patch landed a few days ago for that. >>>>> * Underneath the polyfill section you can list >>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/vtt.js. It's a >>>>> JavaScript implementation of the WebVTT spec >>>>> (not the track spec). In the future it might >>>>> evolve into a full <track> polyfill. >>>>> >>>>> Rick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Carlos Araya >>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I took a first stab at writing the VTT >>>>> tutorial. It's currently hosted in Github >>>>> to make it easier for people to contribute >>>>> examples and edits to the page. >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/caraya/vtt-demos/blob/master/video_captioning.md >>>>> >>>>> Please take a look at it and let me know >>>>> what you think needs to be changed and >>>>> what other things I should add. >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Silvia >>>>> Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Great to hear your interest! >>>>> >>>>> I would indeed encourage to write >>>>> about implemented reality, even >>>>> though that will probably continue to >>>>> improve over the next few >>>>> months. >>>>> >>>>> You could explain the features as >>>>> specified and then explain what >>>>> works in the browsers now. >>>>> >>>>> This could, in fact, contribute to the >>>>> testing efforts of the <track> >>>>> element in HTML, see >>>>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing . >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Silvia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, >>>>> Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > I'd be interested in looking at >>>>> working on something like this. >>>>> However the first question that comes >>>>> to mind is whether we write to the way >>>>> the specification is written or to the >>>>> way it is supported. As far as I know >>>>> there is no complete implementation of >>>>> the VTT spec available,is there? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Carlos >>>>> > >>>>> > Sent from my iPad >>>>> > >>>>> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:43 PM, David >>>>> Singer <singer@apple.com >>>>> <mailto:singer@apple.com>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi >>>>> >> >>>>> >> it would be really cool to have an >>>>> authoring guide for VTT (unlike the >>>>> specification, which is essentially an >>>>> implementation guide) on >>>>> WebPlatformDocs. There are some >>>>> possible starting points, below, >>>>> though of course to use any of this >>>>> material we’d need to work with the >>>>> authors and get permission. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Is there someone who would like to >>>>> pull this together and spearhead >>>>> getting a good authoring guide on this >>>>> important site? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> >>>>> http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-webvtt-and-track/ >>>>> >>> >>>>> http://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/WebVTT >>>>> >>> >>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/10/12/html5-video-captioning.aspx >>>>> >>> http://www.delphiki.com/webvtt/ >>>>> >>> >>>>> http://demosthenes.info/blog/580/Make-Online-Video-Accessible-And-Searchable-With-WebVTT >>>>> >>> >>>>> http://www.accessiq.org/news/features/2013/03/webvtt-and-captioning-on-the-web >>>>> >> >>>>> >> David Singer >>>>> >> Multimedia and Software Standards, >>>>> Apple Inc. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
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