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Re: Roll-up captions in WebVTT

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:02:51 +0000 (UTC)
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
cc: public-texttracks@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1111290000340.2514@ps20323.dreamhostps.com>
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
> The fact is that roll-up captions are a standard means in which TV 
> captions have been provided in the past and that publishers want these 
> replicated in exactly the same way on the Web. This is why YouTube had 
> to develop this feature, too. Since we are making WebVTT a universal 
> format in which all existing captioning from TV can be represented on 
> the Web, too, we have to support this case.

WebVTT is definitely _not_ a format "in which all existing captioning from 
TV can be represented on the Web".

The Web is its own medium. We shouldn't be adopting all the mistakes of 
past mediums.

> Captions are a legal part of a video - if you want to present a video on 
> the Web identically to how it has been authored, we need this support, 
> otherwise it's not the same artistic object and sites run into copyright 
> issues.

I don't buy that for a minute. If you can get the permission to publish 
the content in the first place, you can get the permission to publish it 
using the Web's technologies.

> It doesn't matter if what is presented is aesthetically more pleasing 
> than an alternative presentation - we don't change the content of a 
> movie for display on the Web either just because we don't think a part 
> of it is not aesthetically pleasing.

Yes, we do.

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