Re: [TalentSignal] proposal for Job Start Date

I am with Jason, Phil. The proposed definitions for jobStartDate and
jobImmediateStart make sense to me.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 5:37 AM Jason Sole <jason@directemployers.org> wrote:

> I am on board with this. I think it solves my original concerns.
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> Thanks,
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> Jason
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> *From: *Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
> *Date: *Monday, May 6, 2019 at 6:12 AM
> *To: *"public-talent-signal@w3.org" <public-talent-signal@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [TalentSignal] proposal for Job Start Date
> *Resent-From: *<public-talent-signal@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Monday, May 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM
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> Hello all.
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> Following the discussions last week and the suggestion from Anderw
> Cunsolo, I have redrafted the proposal on the wiki. It now reads:
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> *jobStartDate*
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> *Definition*: The date on which a successful applicant for this job would
> be expected to start work. Choose a specific date in the future or use the
> jobImmediateStart property to indicate the position is to be filled as soon
> as possible.
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> *Expected type*: ISO 8601 Date <https://schema.org/Date>
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> *jobImmediateStart*
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> *Defintion*: An indicator as to whether a position is available for an
> immediate start.
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> *Expected type*: Boolean <https://schema.org/Boolean>
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> (I added the hint to "use the jobImmediateStart property to indicate the
> position is to be filled as soon as possible" to steer people away from
> using text in what I think will be the most common scenario for that.)
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> Please think through how this would work for real-world examples and let
> me know of any comments. I will work up the pull request to submit via the
> schema.org github repo, hopefully at the end of this week.
>
> Phil
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> On 02/05/2019 16:02, Phil Barker wrote:
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> Hello all, the second relatively simple issue that we prioritized, is that
> currently schema.org/JobPosting has no way to specify the expected start
> date for the job being advertised.
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> A simple way to fix this
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Provide_start_date_for_job>
> is a new property of JobPosting:
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> *jobStartDate*
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> *Definition: *The date on which a successful applicant for this job would
> be expected to start work. Text values such as "Immediately" or "As soon as
> possible" may be used when a specific date is not appropriate.
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> *Expected type:* ISO 8601 Date <https://schema.org/Date> or Text
> <https://schema.org/Text>
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> Please let me know if you wish to improve on this or have an alternative
> suggestion. In particular, is a text value to indicate an immediate start
> sufficient, or should this be handled more explicitly, for example as a
> separate property?
>
> On that question, my own view (as exemplified in the proposal) is that,
> while an explicit indicator for immediate start may be useful for internal
> systems, a text value is adequate for advertising this on the web. If
> experience and demand show that this approach is not adequate, we would
> have evidence to provide to schema.org for a separate, explicit property.
>
> Regards, Phil.
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> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
> CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for
> innovation in education technology.
> PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning;
> information systems for education.
>
> CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in
> England number OC399090
> PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company,
> number SC569282.
>