Re: CfC: publish a new WD of "Web Telephony API"; deadline Oct 16th

Hi. Zoltan.


2014-10-14 22:49 GMT+09:00 Kis, Zoltan <zoltan.kis@intel.com>:

> Hi Wonsuk,
>
> The latest updated editor's draft is two f2f behind. The most recent
> draft, and the only one that is implemented at the moment, is this
> one:
> https://rawgit.com/sysapps/telephony/gh-pages/index4.html
> I am discussing this with Hsin-Yi today and we found this was the best
> option so far and a good starting point to handle future issues.
> It is not a problem for me to merge into index.html even today, since
> it has been out for review for 2+ months.
>

Okay! Could you merge the most recent draft into index.html now? I will
send CfC email to the group.
Thanks!

Kr, Wonsuk.



> Best regards,
> Zoltan
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk11.lee@samsung.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi. Zoltan!
> > Thanks for effort!
> > But for publishing updated WD before TPAC, we have to do CfC for the
> spec in the group right now. So how about going to do CfC with latest
> updated editor's draft?
> > Then we can handle the issues via upcoming f2f and email discussion.
> >
> > Kr, Wonsuk.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kis, Zoltan [mailto:zoltan.kis@intel.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:28 PM
> >> To: Wonsuk Lee
> >> Cc: public-sysapps@w3.org
> >> Subject: Re: CfC: publish a new WD of "Web Telephony API"; deadline Oct
> >> 16th
> >>
> >> Hi Wonsuk,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk73@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi. Zoltan.
> >> > Thanks a lot for detail explanation including reference implementation
> >> > of Crosswalk!
> >> >
> >> > By the way I am not sure you took a look at discussion thread of TCP
> >> > and UDP Socket API. There is no enough time to publish a new WD. So I
> >> > would like to ask you until when you could have done the update. Could
> >> > you do that until the end of Monday in next week? If it is possible,
> >> it would be great!
> >>
> >> I have made a PR for a new draft yesterday [1], with small corrections
> >> today [2].
> >>
> >> Shortly discussed the changes with Hsin-Yi, most of which was welcome:
> >> - simplified navigator.telephony, removing service related references,
> >> and grouped them into the optionally implemented
> >> navigator.telephony.service interface. Now the API is as close to the
> >> Mozilla API as it could be.
> >> - the optional navigator.telephony.service interface now supports
> >> operator selection and service information (extensible), both for CDMA
> >> and GSM
> >> - simplified the handling of conference calls vs 3-way calls, while
> >> maintaining forward compatibility with new telephony standards.
> >> Waiting for feedback from Mozilla if this helped. If not, then we may go
> >> forward by completely splitting CDMA and GSM functionality on the
> >> CallManager level, where they differ, eventually exposing them on
> >> different objects, such as telephony.cdma and telephony.gsm
> >> - small changes to CallHistory and id management of services and calls.
> >>
> >> For the future we discussed possibility of correcting the current hold
> >> semantics to reflect real world use cases like SwapCalls (swap active
> >> and held calls), HoldAndAnswer, ReleaseAndAnswer, ReleaseAndSwap etc.
> >>
> >> The intent is to make index4.html [3] the new index.html draft spec by
> >> October 16. Comments welcome.
> >>
> >> [1] https://github.com/sysapps/telephony/pull/215
> >> [2] https://github.com/sysapps/telephony/pull/216
> >> [3] https://rawgit.com/sysapps/telephony/gh-pages/index4.html
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Zoltan
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Kr, Wonsuk.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2014-10-10 22:31 GMT+09:00 Kis, Zoltan <zoltan.kis@intel.com>:
> >> >
> >> >> Intel's implementation for Telephony is done as a Crosswalk native
> >> >> extension [1], and uses the oFono telephony middleware (supporting a
> >> >> wide range on modems, including phones controlled via Bluetooth HFP).
> >> >> The implementation works with GSM, including conferencing. It is
> >> >> being updated to support CDMA. Also, support for telephony
> >> >> network/operator related functionality is under work (hidden behind
> >> >> TelephonyService and a new concept, TelephonyProvider).
> >> >> A reference web dialer application is also being developed.
> >> >>
> >> >> This work was useful for proofing the API design.
> >> >> I will update the specification with these findings soon, intended to
> >> >> be merged into index4.html [2]
> >> >>
> >> >> This also means it will be closer to Mozilla's original API, mostly
> >> >> adding things on top.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then we will need CfC on that spec.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> Zoltan
> >> >>
> >> >> [1]
> >> >>
> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/tizen-extensions-crosswalk/pull/
> >> >> 376/files [2]
> >> >> https://rawgit.com/sysapps/telephony/gh-pages/index4.html
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk73@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Forks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new Public Working
> >> >> > Draft
> >> >> > (WD) of the Web Telephony API spec using the following ED as the
> >> >> > basis <http://www.w3.org/2012/sysapps/telephony/>.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to "record the group's
> >> >> > decision to request advancement".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > By publishing this WD, the group sends a signal to the community to
> >> >> > begin reviewing the document. The WD reflects where the group is on
> >> >> > this spec at the time of publication; it does not necessarily mean
> >> >> > there is consensus on the spec's contents.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you have any comments or concerns about this CfC, please send
> >> >> > them to public-sysapps@w3.org by Oct 16 at the latest. Positive
> >> >> > response is preferred and encouraged and silence will be considered
> >> >> > as agreement with the proposal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For the chairs,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Wonsuk.
> >> >> >
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