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RE: Discussing security model of sysapps

From: POTONNIEE Olivier <Olivier.POTONNIEE@gemalto.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:17:51 +0200
To: Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com>, GALINDO Virginie <Virginie.GALINDO@gemalto.com>, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
CC: Mounir Lamouri <mounir@lamouri.fr>, Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk11.lee@samsung.com>, "public-sysapps@w3.org" <public-sysapps@w3.org>
Message-ID: <267D4E63A0D73044BFBB4199DA94D80504199099EB0D@CROEXCFWP04.gemalto.com>
Thanks Marcos for the clarification. I agree installable applications are not strictly necessary, and SW offers a smart way to address offline mode.
So there are no "installable" apps, but just (pre-)"installed" apps, running with app:// uri.
Fine for me, thanks!
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Olivier


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:w3c@marcosc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 5:43 PM
> To: POTONNIEE Olivier; GALINDO Virginie; Dave Raggett
> Cc: Mounir Lamouri; Wonsuk Lee; public-sysapps@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Discussing security model of sysapps
>
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> On April 1, 2014 at 5:30:50 PM, POTONNIEE Olivier
> (olivier.potonniee@gemalto.com) wrote:
> > Sorry, I was not trying to be abstract.
>
> I know you weren't, was just pre-empting :)
>
> > What I can't see in any specifications is:
> >
> > As a web application developer, I want to provide an installable
> > application that users can download an install on their device. How
> > should I package my application in an interoperable way?
>
> You are correct. Apart from [1], this is vendor specific right now.
>
> As I've proposed previously, pulling section 5 "Zip Archive" from [1]
> would suffice (or simply referencing it from somewhere).
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> Then using the manifest spec [2], would give you 95% of what you need.
> The missing 5% is adding an "origin" member to the manifest to enable
> the package app to be CORS-compatible.
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> > Or from the other side:
> >
> > As a web application user, I browse to an online page that offers an
> installable web application.
> > How can I (or the browser) download this application and install it
> on
> > my device in an interoperable way?
>
> Yes, you are again correct that the group has no spec for this. Again,
> [1] + [2] could be used, but [1] would need to be modified to support
> the JSON format instead of XML.
>
> The greater question is why would one do that? Why not just
> "install/bookmark/add-to-homecreen" the web page (and let service
> workers deal with offline). This is where we land back at the APIs -
> but most of the APIs we are defining here would not be available to any
> random "online page".
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/

> [2] http://w3c.github.io/manifest/

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