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From: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:32:26 +0100
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To: "W3C SWEO IG" <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
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On 18/03/07, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
> Nova Spivack wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys – I'm supposed to be speaking about the semweb on a panel
> > moderated by none other than Clay Shirky (who hates the semweb and
> > generally misrepresents it) on Monday (at the Highlands Forum).
> >
> > I was wondering --- are there any stats I can cite about the semweb
> > that will help to head of his criticisms?
> >
> > - Number of SPARQL endpoints, or growth of them?
> >
> > - Growth of semweb? Any metrics you know of?
> >
> > Anything else you think I might cite?
> >
> Nova,
>
> For some stats see: http://pingethesemanticweb.com .
>
> Also remember that RDF Tax is diminishing by the second. By this I mean
> most things on the web can act as RDF data sources by way of only the
> fly transformation (my blog posts demonstrate this repeatedly).

Absolutely.

Hopefully the FUDish "RDF Tax" phrase has now been pretty well
undermined. GRDDL offers a spec for one approach. I'm not sure of the
best wording here, but I think it's reasonably fair to say that any
data anyone puts on the Web is now part of the Semantic Web - feeds,
microformats, JSON, custom XML etc.

> Clay's Achilles heel is his misconception that folksonomies and W3C
> ontologies are mutually exclusive. If you join del.icio.us and flickr
> (for instance) without and RDF tax on the side of either data source,
> then you neutralize his point because: The Inner Joins and Out Joins of
> these data sources ultimately show where folksonomies stop and where
> ontologies start as part of a greater good courtesy of the Semantic Web :-)
>
> Also watch: http://videolectures.net/iswc06_gruber_wswms/
>
> Kingsley
> >
> > Clay generally attacks the semweb on the grounds that social tagging
> > is better than inferencing. Duh. That's a completely made-up conflict
> > since the semweb is a natural fit with tagging, and secondly since the
> > semweb does not only focused on inferencing. In any case, the question
> > is how to deal with him.
> >
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