- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:33:11 -0400
- CC: Jeff Pollock <jeff.pollock@oracle.com>, W3C SWEO IG <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
Ivan Herman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks for these slides Jeff. What was the reaction in the audience, b.t.w.? > > Actually... what you say is interesting at one point: "The organizers > intent was to drive some controversy in the audience". I feel like > public figures being manipulated by journalists. Of course, it is good > for the organizers if there is controversy, that is their bread and > butter, but it is manipulation nevertheless... > Ivan, Unfortunately we have the old media controversy model trumping eduction and enlightenment re. the Web. In a sense, this is a reflection of their inflection driven apprehension. The Semantic Web and too some degree W3C have become the softest of targets for this nonsense. O'Reilly naturally struggles with anything that equates to Web 2.0+. In short, traditional print media types just don't get it at all which leaves stirring the controversy pot the best option for filling up seats at these events. Publishers grok blurb in the form of Web Content expressed in XML (at best). They don't understand granular data access or data modeling. And where there is some data appreciation then sharing is a no-no. The Semantic Web is about things they don't understand, and where understood, it totally turns their business models upside down. This is ultimately what we are up against :-) That said, we simply continue to educate en route busting every myth out there! Kingsley > Thanks again > > Ivan > > Ivan Herman wrote: > >> Jeff's original attachment was too large for the mailing list, so I >> added the file to our web site on the following URI: >> >> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/Pollock.SDForum.Ontology-vs-Folksonomy.small.ppt >> >> Ivan >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [Moderator Action (size limit exceeded)] SDForum Ontology vs. >> Folksonomy >> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:13:51 +0000 >> From: Jeff Pollock <jeff.pollock@oracle.com> >> Reply-To: <jeff.pollock@oracle.com> >> Organization: Oracle >> To: <semantic-tech_us@oracle.com>, "'W3C SWEO IG'" <public-sweo-ig@w3.org> >> >> >> >> Oracle SemTech and W3C SWEO- >> >> >> >> I gave a short panel talk in Palo Alto last night on the topic of >> â¬SOntology vs. Folksonomy, Tortoise and the Hare.⬠The organizers intent >> was to drive some controversy in the audience and I took the opportunity >> to try and accomplish some Myth-Busting about the Semantic Web⬦slides >> are attached. >> >> >> >> Regards, -Jeff- >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Oracle >> >> >> >> Jeff T. Pollock >> Senior Director >> Fusion Middleware >> >> Main: 800-ORACLE1 >> >> Fax: 801-607-6504 >> >> Web: www.oracle.com <http://www.oracle.com> >> >> >> >> Direct: 650-506-4700 >> >> Mobile: 415-971-2223 >> >> Email: jeff.pollock@oracle.com <mailto:jeff.pollock@oracle.com> >> >> >> >> >> > > - -- > > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > PGP Key: http://www.cwi.nl/%7Eivan/AboutMe/pgpkey.html > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (Cygwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF+lpTdR3hQzQ/Gj0RAixoAKCuL54b6YZzy2xsmAWeW6ryS8LTDQCglN3V > fYx9IJ4keyfN+T82iyNAML4= > =n6pg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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