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Re: [Fwd: SDForum Ontology vs. Folksonomy]

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:33:11 -0400
Message-ID: <45FA9C97.8020902@openlinksw.com>
CC: Jeff Pollock <jeff.pollock@oracle.com>, W3C SWEO IG <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>

Ivan Herman wrote:
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> Thanks for these slides Jeff. What was the reaction in the audience, b.t.w.?
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> Actually... what you say is interesting at one point: "The organizers
> intent was to drive some controversy in the audience". I feel like
> public figures being manipulated by journalists. Of course, it is good
> for the organizers if there is controversy, that is their bread and
> butter, but it is manipulation nevertheless...
>   
Ivan,

Unfortunately we have the old media controversy model trumping eduction 
and enlightenment re. the Web. In a sense, this is a reflection of their 
inflection driven apprehension. The Semantic Web and too some degree W3C 
have become the softest of targets for this nonsense. O'Reilly naturally 
struggles with anything that equates to Web 2.0+. In short, traditional 
print media types just don't get it at all which leaves stirring the 
controversy pot the best option for filling up seats at these events.

Publishers grok blurb in the form of Web Content expressed in XML (at 
best). They don't understand granular data access or data modeling. And 
where there is some data appreciation then sharing is a no-no. The 
Semantic Web is about things they don't understand, and where 
understood, it totally turns their business models upside down. This is 
ultimately what we are up against :-)

That said, we simply continue to educate en route busting every myth out 
there!

Kingsley
> Thanks again
>
> Ivan
>
> Ivan Herman wrote:
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>> Jeff's original attachment was too large for the mailing list, so I
>> added the file to our web site on the following URI:
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>> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/Pollock.SDForum.Ontology-vs-Folksonomy.small.ppt
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>> Ivan
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	[Moderator Action (size limit exceeded)] SDForum Ontology vs.
>> Folksonomy
>> Date: 	Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:13:51 +0000
>> From: 	Jeff Pollock <jeff.pollock@oracle.com>
>> Reply-To: 	<jeff.pollock@oracle.com>
>> Organization: 	Oracle
>> To: 	<semantic-tech_us@oracle.com>, "'W3C SWEO IG'" <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
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>> Oracle SemTech and W3C SWEO-
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>> I gave a short panel talk in Palo Alto last night on the topic of
>> â¬SOntology vs. Folksonomy, Tortoise and the Hare.⬝  The organizers intent
>> was to drive some controversy in the audience and I took the opportunity
>> to try and accomplish some Myth-Busting about the Semantic Web⬦slides
>> are attached.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards, -Jeff-
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>> Oracle
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>> Jeff T. Pollock
>> Senior Director
>> Fusion Middleware
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>> Email:  jeff.pollock@oracle.com <mailto:jeff.pollock@oracle.com>
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> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
> URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	      Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Received on Friday, 16 March 2007 13:33:13 UTC

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