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Re: Places to Expose and Track Upcoming Events

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:27:55 -0500
Message-ID: <45A9088B.4060408@openlinksw.com>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: 'W3C SWEO IG' <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>

Ivan Herman wrote:
> Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>> All,
>> Please look at:
>> 1. http://eventful.com/
>> 2. http://upcoming.org/
> Thx Kingsley, I did not know abou this one...
> Adding events to these looks o.k., but I find, in both cases, a small
> usability problem. Because these sites want to be nice:-(, they
> automatically try to adapt to the locality. Ie, when I go to the site,
> it automatically filters the entries to those that are close to
> Amsterdam. This means that, if I relied on this thing, I would certainly
> miss some events. I think that is a bug.
> I did not find an RSS feed on the first, but did find one on the second.
>  However, I did not find the tag information in the feed itself:
> http://upcoming.org/news/index.xml, ie, it looks like filtering out the
> semantic web related events is not obvious...
> Sigh:-)

We can reach out the the people behind these sites. You see, they 
already have context, which also means we have the basis for discussions 
along the following lines: "Here is how your service could provide a 
little more value ......" . No different to your suggestions re. the 
Music Ontology effort :-)

There are many Web 2.0 style applications out there that simply need 
this kind of communication from the SemWeb community via SWEO.

> Ivan
>> We should add pending SWEO events [1] to these services an track these
>> sites (via RSS feeds) for events that are relevant to SWEO effort. The
>> overall net effect (as I've stated repeatedly) is that once in Atom or
>> RSS (don't care what version) I can put the data into a SPARQL compliant
>> RDF Data Store (enabling us to SELECT, ASK, or CONSTRUCT against said
>> Data Source).
>> BTW - I assume others can produce and expose RDF Data Sources along
>> similar lines too :-)
>> The biggest question for the Semantic Web at the end of the day is:
>> Where will the Semantic Content becoming from? How costly will the
>> production of this data be etc?
>> If we all recall, one of the early use cases of XML was content
>> syndication and subscription (a la RSS while in the hands of Netscape).
>> And in similar vain the question was: How will the XML content be
>> produced? And when produced how would the syndication and subscription
>> ecosystem materialize? The answer to these questions was the Blogosphere
>> as constructed and demonstrated by Dave Winer (using his Radio Userland
>> platform).
>> All of my suggestions are about SWEO setting the stage for using the
>> same game plan to unobtrusively unveil the power of the Semantic Web.
>> Again, this is why Mesh-ups over Mash-ups is key. Likewise, viewing and
>> querying the many online communities of XML/XHTML/Wiki-Markup content
>> syndicates and subscribers via an RDF based data model is key to
>> engaging Web Community.



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