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RE: SWEO is in the news :-)

From: Paul Walsh, Segala <paulwalsh@segala.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:34:35 -0000
To: "'Benjamin Nowack'" <bnowack@appmosphere.com>
Cc: "'W3C SWEO IG'" <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20070208183435.A62CD12EF22DF@postie1.hosting365.ie>

-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Nowack [mailto:bnowack@appmosphere.com] 
Sent: 08 February 2007 18:09
To: Paul Walsh, Segala


On 08.02.2007 18:46:38, Ivan Herman wrote:
>Ah! Now I get it. It is a version of your content label ff extension but
>for CC. Yes, that sounds like a nice thing to have indeed!
Oh, maybe I got that wrong, too, then. You mean that google result lists
should have license information embedded per-entry? I.e. you'd do a
random search and could see license information (if available)?
Yeah, that sounds handy. Could make even more sense for vertical
search engines, I guess.

[PW] I am so crap at explaining myself, I don't know how I run any form of
business. YES, you got it. 

OK, here's the cool stuff for W3C standards bragging. Check out
www.trustwatch.com - I met the CTO of GeoTrust in 2005, before it was bought
by VeriSign. I told him that their model for enabling trust wasn't scalable
(won't bore you with the detail here). Since then, I've been told by Philip
Hallam-Baker that VeriSign are likely to can the system for that reason. I
believe the use of open methods such as labels are scalable ;)

>Caveat: at the moment, the CC content is stored in... HTML comment. That
>is because putting RDF into HTML and still have it valid was not
>possible. *That* is exactly why CC engaged into the RDFa work. But the
>current status may make the extension's life a bit tougher...
Not sure if I can resist to comment on RDFa and HTML validity ;)

[PW] I don't think this is relevant based on my response to Ivan ;)

[PW] Paul





>
>
>Ivan
>
>Paul Walsh, Segala wrote:
>> Actually, Paul Miller explains it even better than I do in my original
post.
>> Perhaps you could have a quick read?
>> http://segala.com/blog/semantic-labels-for-creative-commons-licences 
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> Paul
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] 
>> Sent: 08 February 2007 09:48
>> To: Paul Walsh, Segala
>> Cc: 'Susie Stephens'; 'W3C SWEO IG'
>> Subject: Re: SWEO is in the news :-)
>> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> I am not sure what exactly is your question. Is it to give CC license
>> for the results of the projects?
>> 
>> There is also a W3C licence for software (which is, afaik, very liberal)
>> but I am not sure it is 100% the same as one of the CC licences. I know
>> our legal guys are looking at combining these two, and I must admit that
>> I do not really know what the subtle differences are. I *really* prefer
>> to leave that to my legally minded colleagues...
>> 
>> Ivan
>> 
>> Paul Walsh, Segala wrote:
>> 
>>>Thanks Susie.
>>>
>>>Reading the article, we could publish a vocabulary for creative commons.
>>>Should be really easy. I was talking to David earlier about how to get
>>>better adoption. It's kinda like productising a technology as it's easier
>> 
>> to
>> 
>>>sell a product and it is a concept. PEGI for example, has agreed that it
>>>will use Content Labels for online games rating. So, rather than wait for
>>>them to do something, we'll probably create the labels for them.
>>>
>>>What do you think about the creative commons license? It is after all, a
>>>form of conformance claim.
>>>
>>>Look forward to your feedback.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org]
>>>On Behalf Of Susie Stephens
>>>Sent: 07 February 2007 15:09
>>>To: 'W3C SWEO IG'
>>>Subject: SWEO is in the news :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>There's an article about SWEO in content wire. :-)
>>>http://www.content-wire.com/FreshPicks/Index.cfm?ccs=86&cs=4391
>>>
>>>Susie
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> 
>
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>
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