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RE: SWEO is in the news :-)

From: Paul Walsh, Segala <paulwalsh@segala.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:02:27 -0000
To: "'Ivan Herman'" <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: "'Susie Stephens'" <susie.stephens@oracle.com>, "'W3C SWEO IG'" <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20070208180228.25C6612E9E76E@postie1.hosting365.ie>

Use cases for Content Labels can be found on the Quatro site [1]

I see CC as a use case. I also see codes of conduct for blogs, e-commerce,
advertising, marketing, educational information, privacy... as use cases. As
BIMA Chair, I work closely with trade associations in the UK. Some of them
have codes of conduct and are interested in machine-readable trustmarks
(Content Labels or POWDER to you and me). The use cases for enabling better
trust is quite compelling and it's an issue that can be resolved right away.

A Content Label is just a file that contains RDF (and likely to include
something else to support groups), so there's no worry about HTML/RDF etc. 

Think of labels as the solution for making 'claims' of conformance to a
standard, best practice or code of conduct. Our method of labelling content
has already gone through the W3C's first ever XG [2]. So it's pretty stable
for what we want it to do now. It's now going onto a full recommendation
track to standardise it and to address additional stuff that TimBL wants to
see covered - such as Favicons, robot.txt.

[1] http://www.quatro-project.org/ContentProviders.htm 
[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/wcl/ 

We could knock up the vocabulary for CC in a few hours. I didn't want to
press ahead if people thought it was a silly idea on account of the current
RDF support could do everything that I have in mind. 

I know you're familiar with Content Labels Ivan, so my note is for the
benefit of new members of the group.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] 
Sent: 08 February 2007 17:47
To: Paul Walsh, Segala
Cc: 'Susie Stephens'; 'W3C SWEO IG'
Subject: Re: SWEO is in the news :-)

Ah! Now I get it. It is a version of your content label ff extension but
for CC. Yes, that sounds like a nice thing to have indeed!

Caveat: at the moment, the CC content is stored in... HTML comment. That
is because putting RDF into HTML and still have it valid was not
possible. *That* is exactly why CC engaged into the RDFa work. But the
current status may make the extension's life a bit tougher...


Paul Walsh, Segala wrote:
> Actually, Paul Miller explains it even better than I do in my original
> Perhaps you could have a quick read?
> http://segala.com/blog/semantic-labels-for-creative-commons-licences 
> Many thanks
> Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] 
> Sent: 08 February 2007 09:48
> To: Paul Walsh, Segala
> Cc: 'Susie Stephens'; 'W3C SWEO IG'
> Subject: Re: SWEO is in the news :-)
> Paul,
> I am not sure what exactly is your question. Is it to give CC license
> for the results of the projects?
> There is also a W3C licence for software (which is, afaik, very liberal)
> but I am not sure it is 100% the same as one of the CC licences. I know
> our legal guys are looking at combining these two, and I must admit that
> I do not really know what the subtle differences are. I *really* prefer
> to leave that to my legally minded colleagues...
> Ivan
> Paul Walsh, Segala wrote:
>>Thanks Susie.
>>Reading the article, we could publish a vocabulary for creative commons.
>>Should be really easy. I was talking to David earlier about how to get
>>better adoption. It's kinda like productising a technology as it's easier
> to
>>sell a product and it is a concept. PEGI for example, has agreed that it
>>will use Content Labels for online games rating. So, rather than wait for
>>them to do something, we'll probably create the labels for them.
>>What do you think about the creative commons license? It is after all, a
>>form of conformance claim.
>>Look forward to your feedback.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org]
>>On Behalf Of Susie Stephens
>>Sent: 07 February 2007 15:09
>>To: 'W3C SWEO IG'
>>Subject: SWEO is in the news :-)
>>There's an article about SWEO in content wire. :-)


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