- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:14:21 -0400
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The record of today's Semantic Web Deployment Working Group telecon
is now available:
http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html
A text snapshot follows.
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Semantic Web Deployment Working Group
07 Apr 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0014.html
See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2009-03-24
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-irc
[4] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html
Attendees
Present
Ralph Swick, Tom Baker, Diego Berrueta, Guus Schreiber,
Antoine Isaac, Ed Summers
Regrets
Sean Bechhofer, Ben Adida
Chair
Tom
Scribe
Ralph
Contents
* Topics
1. Admin
2. SKOS
3. RDFa
4. Recipes
5. RDFa Metadata Note
6. AOB
* Summary of Action Items
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Admin
RESOLVED to accept [13]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html
minutes of 24-March telecon
[13] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html
RESOLVED next telecon 21 April, Guus to scribe
SKOS
Tom: I noted a couple of issues in SKOS Reference
... do we have enough folk here to discuss these?
-> [14]Adding to Section A.3 the statement: "skosxl:prefLabel,
skosxl:altLabel and skosxl:hiddenLabel are pairwise disjoint
properties."
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0002.html
Antoine: I think this is a matter of omission
... when I first looked at it I thought it could be handled by the
semantics of the core properties and the dumbing-down rules
... I don't think we ever thought the semantics would be different
Ralph: I think we should make the change and note it was an error of
omission
Guus: agree
Tom: [15]issue 189 is still open
... I think we resolved to close it
[15] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/189
Antoine: it should be in the minutes of the previous meeting
... but I do not see it mentioned there; we overlooked it
... can we decide it right now?
<Antoine>
[16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0059.h
tml
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0059.html
Antoine: we did not receive negative feedback from Magnus
PROPOSED: close issue 189
[no objections]
RESOLUTION: issue 189 closed
Tom: [17]issue 191 is still open
... Alistair has proposed to close -> [18]2009Mar/0039 [14]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/191
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0039.html
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0002.html
Tom: Addison accepted the proposed prose
... so [19]message 37 can be the basis for closing issue 191
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0037.html
Ralph: that was my feeling when I made the case for publishing CR
RESOLUTION: issue 191 closed citing
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0037.h
tml
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0037.html
Tom: note that issue 192 is raised
-> [21]issue 192; CR Comment: missing bracket in example 44
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0037.html
Tom: Antoine proposed in [22]2009Mar/0012] changes to labels and
definitions in the RDF file
... Whom to list as dct:contributor (SWAD-Europe, SWBPD, SWD,
public-esw-thes)?
... I'd posted a long message [23]2009Apr/0009] on the content,
titles, and status of the HTML representations
... I suggest we skip discussion of this until Alistair and Sean are
present
... also question of OWL 1 DL prune of SKOS Ontology:
... -> [24]2009Mar/0071 [Sean 25 March]
... -> [25]2009Apr/0004 [Alistair 3 April]
... I suggest we postpone this discussion as well
[22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0012.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0009.html
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0071.html
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0004.html
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Antoine add the Vrieje Uni tool to the
implementation report [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action08
ACTION: [DONE] Alistair to write draft message call for
implementations and issue to the list [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action04
-> [28]draft email: Call for Implementations: SKOS Simple Knowledge
Organization System [Alistair 2009-03-24]
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0070.html
<Antoine>
[29]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists
[29] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists
Tom: do we know what lists this message should be sent to?
... we should send it today
Antoine: I'm willing to send but I think we should change the date;
15 April is now too soon
... would 2 more weeks be compatible with our timeline?
... that would be a minimum, though personally I'd prefer more time
Tom: how about 30 April, matching our CR end
ACTION: Antoine send call for implementations to the lists
identified in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists with
the date changed to 30 April [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists
Tom: I noted that the legacy SKOS Core documents could usefully have
forward links to the new specification
-- [32]http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec/ - DONE
[32] http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec/
-- [33]http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ - DONE
[33] http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/
-- [34]http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-thesaurus-pubguide/
[34] http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-thesaurus-pubguide/
- see
[35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0079.h
tml
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0079.html
-- [36]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html
[36] http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html
Tom: I suggest that Antoine could create a single page pointing
readers forward to the new SKOS Primer
Antoine: the Best Practices as well
Tom: yes
RESOLUTION: create intermediate pages for the legacy SKOS Core
documents referring readers to the new specifications
ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for the legacy SKOS Core
documents referring readers to the new specifications [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action04]
Tom: on the mapping vocabulary specification, we could use a page
similar to the one for swbp-skos-core-spec
Antoine: sounds reasonable, I'll include it in my action
ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for
[38]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html
referring readers to the new specifications [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[38] http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html
RDFa
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition
to Group Note [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[40] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02
Recipes
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft
[recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
[41] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation
[of Recipes implementations] [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
[42] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20
ACTION: [DONE] Diego to prepare new version of recipes note
[recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[43] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action07
<berrueta_> [44]new Recipes draft
[44] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html
Diego: I send the new Recipes draft
... also I opened a new tracker issue
... issue 193
-> [45]issue 193; HTML served to browser even when RDF is
explicitely requested in the Accept header
[45] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/193
Tom: we'll discuss this new draft at a future meeting
RDFa Metadata Note
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of
the metadata note [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[46] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03
AOB
ACTION: [DONE] Guus to draft response to ian with thanks for
addressing comments, happy to see revised documents, would favour
new features document also to include rdf syntax [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[47] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action11
-> [48]Re: [LC response] To SWD WG [Guus 2009-04-07]
[48] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0018.html
Tom: -> [49]Request for WAI-ARIA review, Accessible Rich Internet
Applications 1.0, Last Call
... I don't think we have enough resources in the WG to formally do
this
... but if anyone has the time individually, please feel free
... comment deadline is 17 April
... do we need to send a formal reply?
[49] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0076.html
Ralph: yes, please send what you just said
Tom: OK, I'll reply to Michael Cooper and CC the WG list
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for
[50]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html
referring readers to the new specifications [recorded in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for the legacy SKOS
Core documents referring readers to the new specifications [recorded
in [52]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Antoine send call for implementations to the lists
identified in
[53]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists with
the date changed to 30 April [recorded in
[54]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[50] http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html
[53] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists
[PENDING] ACTION: Antoine add the Vrieje Uni tool to the
implementation report [recorded in
[55]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition
to Group Note [recorded in
[56]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of
the metadata note [recorded in
[57]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft
[recorded in
[58]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of
Recipes implementations] [recorded in
[59]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
[55] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action08
[56] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02
[57] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03
[58] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15
[59] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20
[DONE] ACTION: Alistair to write draft message call for
implementations and issue to the list [recorded in
[60]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Diego to prepare new version of recipes note
[recorded in
[61]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Guus to draft response to ian with thanks for
addressing comments, happy to see revised documents, would favour
new features document also to include rdf syntax [recorded in
[62]http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[60] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action04
[61] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action07
[62] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action11
[End of minutes]
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