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Re: [SKOS] tracking SKOS issues (was: "proposal template")

From: Jon Phipps <jphipps@madcreek.com>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:21:08 -0400
Message-ID: <34b5049c0705080721i2f0e9aear9c4297007583973f@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Thomas Baker" <baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de>
Cc: "Miles, AJ (Alistair)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>, public-swd-wg@w3.org

Tom, Alistair,

Just to clarify (hopefully) a bit...

It looks to me like Alistair's template is intended to provide a
template for issue _resolution_ as opposed to issue _proposal_. If
this is the case then "SKOS issues can be proposed using the
[SkosProposalTemplate SKOS Proposal Template]" isn't correct.

Our current "Issue Proposal" process seems to be:
1. an email identifying the issue is sent to the list
or
1a. working group members may add an issue directly to the issue tracker
and/or
1b. working group members may initiate an issue discussion on the wiki
by creating a page related to the issue as a child of the
SkosDesign[1] page
or
1c. the issue is added to the SkosIssuesSandbox [2] page
2. Issues in the sandbox are discussed in the group, so far fairly informally
if accepted as a 'valid' issue then
3. The issue is added to the Issue Tracker
4. Proposed Resolutions to the Issue are added to the wiki as children
of the SkosDesign page and an email is sent to the list
5. Proposed Resolutions are put on the agenda for further discussion

and then?

The first step in this process seems a bit broken.

I'd like to suggest that we...
* always add new issues by raising the issue on the tracker -- if it's
not in the tracker, it's not an issue
* anoint someone to be the official watcher of the list who will have
the responsibility of adding to the tracker issues raised by
non-members
* add _all_ of the issues currently in the issues sandbox into the
tracker as 'raised' issues without intermediate discussion.
* perhaps give each issue in the tracker it's own wiki page as a child
of SkosDesign (or SkosDesign/Issues?) to support the current form of
wiki-based discussion???
* explicitly follow Alistair's current method of attaching the
proposed resolution to an issue as a child of the related issue's wiki
discussion page as in...
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/GroupingConstructs/ProposalOne

This also raises a couple of small issues with the Tracker software...

1. Looking at the product page for SKOS [3] there is no way to see any
Issues with a status of other than 'Open'. The only way to see Issues
with another status is from the non-product-specific pages [4]. It
would be helpful if minimally all Issues and their current status were
displayed on the product page. The ability to filter that page would
be nice too.

2. There's a menu option for 'Resolutions' [5] but I don't see any way
to add a Resolution or attach it to an Issue. Is it there and I've
just missed it?

Cheers,
--Jon

[1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign
[2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosIssuesSandbox
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/3
[4] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues
[5] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/resolutions

On 5/8/07, Miles, AJ (Alistair) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I guess that's ok, although I didn't mean to suggest that proposals for resolution of SKOS issues MUST use the template.
>
> I added a link from SkosProposalTemplate to IssuesProcess.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alistair.
> --
> Alistair Miles
> Research Associate
> Science and Technology Facilities Council
> Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
> Harwell Science and Innovation Campus
> Didcot
> Oxfordshire OX11 0QX
> United Kingdom
> Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman
> Email: a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk
> Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-swd-wg-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-swd-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Baker
> > Sent: 08 May 2007 13:59
> > To: SWD WG
> > Subject: [SKOS] tracking SKOS issues (was: "proposal template")
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:55:04AM +0100, Alistair Miles wrote:
> > > To make writing SKOS proposals easier, I've created a wiki page
> > > template called "SkosProposalTemplate". When creating a new
> > page, you
> > > can select "SkosProposalTemplate" from the list of templates on the
> > > left hand side, and this will give you a basic structure to
> > work with.
> >
> > Alistair,
> >
> > I have added a section on "Tracking SKOS issues" to the
> > "Deliverables" page:
> >
> >     Tracking SKOS issues
> >
> >     SKOS issues formally under consideration
> >     can be tracked from the Web page
> >     [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/3
> >     http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/3], where
> >     issues are linked to relevant mailing-list postings
> >     automatically and on an ongoing basis.
> >
> >     SKOS issues can be proposed using the
> >     [SkosProposalTemplate SKOS Proposal Template]
> >     in accordance with the "Process for Issues Lists"
> >     (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/IssuesProcess).
> >
> > For clarity, I would suggest linking from the SKOS proposal
> > template [2] to the Issues Process document [3], and vice
> > versa.  Is this the full picture?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#TrackingSKOSIssues
> > [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosProposalTemplate
> > [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/IssuesProcess
> >
> > --
> > Tom Baker - tbaker@tbaker.de - baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de
> >
> >
>
>
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