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Re: [OEP] Simple Part-Whole Relations - draft 1

From: Alan Rector <rector@cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:05:56 +0000
Message-ID: <41F9AC14.D2E6288C@cs.man.ac.uk>
To: Fabien Gandon <Fabien.Gandon@sophia.inria.fr>
CC: best-practice <public-swbp-wg@w3.org>


Thanks for the comments.

.  I'll tidy things up.

Obviously the "All As part of some Bs" should be that it doesn't imply "All Bs
have part some A.".
That is a serious typo and needs fixing as soon as I am back where I can upload
a new copy.  I must
have been asleep.  The other things will get fixed in due course when I have a
good list of typos
and suggestions for rewording.

I didn't include geographical containment in this version - but should have put
it on the to do list.  Geogrpahical entities are individuals, and although this
poses no theoretical problem, to get a version to work with Racer or FaCT++
requires care.  I'd probably rather make that a separate addendum.  I certainly
didn't want to hold up the main note while I did it.



Again, thanks for the comments.



Fabien Gandon wrote:

> Alan Rector a écrit :
> > The first draft of a note on simple part-whole relations for defining classes is
> > at
> >  http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~rector/swbp/simple-part-whole/simple-part-whole-relations-v0-2.html
> Hello Alan,
> Once again you have authored a very promising document.
> While reading it I wrote down a few comments, mainly details, see below.
> Best,
> Fabien
> [Section: Transitive relations - parts and direct parts]
> "(...) will draw the conclusions that the parts of C include both A and B."
> I understand what is meant here but (probably because I am not a native
> speaker) I find it ambiguous (when first reading it I understood it as
> "any part of C would include both A and B" which is wrong) and I would
> rather say something like
> "(...) will draw the conclusions that the set of the parts of C includes
> both A and B."
> " is_part_of_directly" I would prefer " is_direct_part_of" because it
> makes the reading of triples more natural: anA is_direct_part_of  aB
> [Section: Choosing whether to use is_part_of or has_part]
> "To say that 'All As are parts of some B' does not imply that 'All Bs
> are part of some A'"
> Don't you mean that 'All As are parts of some B' does not imply that
> 'All Bs HAVE for part some A'"
> Wouldn't it be useful to introduce the inverse relation of
> is_part_of_directly / is_direct_part_of here ? (in fact I see it's done
> in one of the following sections)
> [Section: Use Cases]
> Wouldn't "geographical/spacial modelling" be a good use case too?
> [Section: Pattern 2: Defining classes for Parts]
> Font typos for " Part_of_car_directly subsumes" and "and that
> Part_of_car subsumes"
> [General]
> The <TITLE> of your draft is still "Defining N-ary Relations (…)"
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