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Re: meeting record: 2004-11-18 SWBPD telecon

From: Christopher Welty <welty@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:36:04 +0100
To: "Ralph R. Swick" <swick@w3.org>
Cc: public-swbp-wg@w3.org, public-swbp-wg-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF6E6905B9.4E178BB7-ONC1256F54.002F95D5-C1256F54.003A3C91@us.ibm.com>
Thanks all, esp. Guus, for looking past the frustration expressed in my 
recent email regarding telecon times and taking it seriously.  I was 
disappointed, to say the least, at seeing a telecon rescheduled when I'd 
explicitly and carefully planned a meeting to avoid the conflict.

Scheduling is not easy, and I realize I'm raising a particularly painful 
topic here, but  it seems to me WG interest and participation is waning:

I really find the alternating telecon times annoying, and I know a bunch 
of others who mumble about this as well.  Sure we can all "live" with it, 
but there is no doubt in my mind that the decreasing telecon participating 
is due, at least in part, to general inability to keep track of when we're 
supposed to meet.  Every other week is hard enough, and then alternating 
the time makes it even harder. 

Again, I know from attempting to get other people involved or re-involved 
that this is a real issue for many people, and I think it is time to 
revisit this issue.  It does not appear that our efforts to attract 
participation from Asia and Australia have succeeded.    Do any of our far 
eastern member(s?) expect to participate in telecons?   A quick survey 
shows only one member (prima facie) listed on the web page, and no telecon 
or mailing list participation in the past few months.

I submit that, given the participation level, we bias the meeting times to 
a mid-atlantic locus.  It just doesn't make sense to me that we all 
"suffer" in order to accomodate a possibility that historicallly has not 

I apologize again for raising this issue - I know it was hard to resolve 
to begin with, however I am concerned about the WG itself.


Dr. Christopher A. Welty, Knowledge Structures Group
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"Ralph R. Swick" <swick@w3.org> 
Sent by: public-swbp-wg-request@w3.org
11/19/2004 09:20 PM


meeting record: 2004-11-18 SWBPD telecon

Minutes from the irc log [1] attached.  Thanks to Brian for the irc 

[1] http://www.w3.org/2004/11/18-swbp-irc
Received on Monday, 22 November 2004 10:36:09 UTC

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