- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:30:13 +0200
- To: www-svg@w3.org
Hello www-svg,
Minutes of todays call
http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html
and below as text
SVG Working Group Teleconference
14 Sep 2010
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/0122.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-irc
Attendees
Present
Shepazu, ed, +39.537.7.aaaa, tbah, ChrisL, anthony_wrk
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
chris
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Last Call Comments
2. [6]Test suite overview
3. [7]SVG Integration
* [8]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 14 September 2010
<scribe> scribe: chris
<scribe> scribenick: chrisl
Last Call Comments
ISSUE-2340?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2340 -- Last Call Comment: view and animation
values lists - where can I find the promised note? -- open
<trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2340
[9] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2340
ACTION-2817
ACTION-2817?
<trackbot> ACTION-2817 -- Chris Lilley to add the promised note
relating to ISSUE-2340 -- due 2010-07-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2817
[10] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2817
test at
[11]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/linking-frag-01-f.
svg
[11] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/linking-frag-01-f.svg
(chrisl corrects a typo in the test, recommits)
The test checks that an escaped semicolon works the same as an
unescaped one
ED: need to debug, think we should pass this. Several values
accepted
CL: Transform should show a quarter circle
my email
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Sep/0086.html
[12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Sep/0086.html
ED (checks in debugger)
DS; What about wrapping in quotes?
CL: List is split by semicolons first. Not clear quotes are allowed
anyway
ED: Looked at issue-2335, bias
issue-2335?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2335 -- Last Call Comment: Clarify feConvolveMatrix
bias property -- raised
<trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2335
[13] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2335
ED: Feedback from Vincent and jasper, agreement on proposed option
number 2
... just need to test this and come up with wording
... does change how the spec defines it, and currently Opera,
Firefox and ASV agree on bias. But its unused and not useful at
present.
<scribe> ... new wording is better
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: maybe get Inkscape and Opera to pass on the new
wording
... checked in tests that Jasper made, colours are different
CL: Inkscape is not using linearRGB
ED: Jasper made tests with sRGB as well
AG: Is option 1 what ASV does?
CL: Yes
<ed> [14]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2368
[14] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2368
ED: Cyril raised an issue on number parsing
ACTION-2843?
<trackbot> ACTION-2843 -- Cyril Concolato to propose new wording for
the spec for ISSUE-2368 -- due 2010-09-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2843
[15] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2843
(wre link the action to the issue)
ED: Will try to close as many as I can. Others sjould get on and do
theirs
Test suite overview
<ed>
[16]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/test_suite_stat
us.html
[16] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/test_suite_status.html
ED: Updated the status generator
tbah: what is 'uses red'?
ChrisL: some can't be changed, like the ones on color syntax
DS: Prefer to avoid red in passing tests where possible
ED: Can toggle off the accepted ones so only the ones that need work
are seen
... move ones as imageOwner and Reviewed to accepted
... only 14 tests
<ed>
[17]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-85-t.
svg
[17] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-85-t.svg
description is not done yet
ED: text in operator script could be moved around easily
<ed> Run the test. No interaction required.
<ed>
[18]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-90-b.
svg
[18] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-90-b.svg
also acceptged
<ed>
[19]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/filters-displace-0
2-f.svg
[19] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/filters-displace-02-f.svg
<ed>
[20]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/painting-control-0
5-f.svg
[20] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/painting-control-05-f.svg
AG: Opera and Chrome both fail some subtests on that one
also shapes-01-f.svg
ED: Might require an erratum for 1.2T
... and update to 1.2T test suite as well
AG: Does 1.1 say what to do with broken pont lists?
ED: Was clear, then changed in 1.2T not sure why
AG: How different is it?
... Will raise the issue now
ED: and need to fix the 1.2T tests
struct-use-10-f.svg
ED: test description lissing, will shunt it around
AG: shapes-01-f.svg is missing the subsection name
ED: Yes but applies to two subsections
CL: Just link it to the two sections
... or rename to one and say in the dezxcription it tests both
sections
struct-use-12-f.svg spelled 'reviewed' incorrectly :)
ED: Script checks for fully red in the reference image
text-align-07-t.svg
CL: Should be an issue because of dominant baseline
... I propose that very old tests which have been out for years, a
decade even, be marked with SVGWG as reviewer and accepted
ED: OK
<scribe> ACTION: chris to bulk review the old SVGWG tests with no
status that have been published already [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2870 - Bulk review the old SVGWG tests
with no status that have been published already [on Chris Lilley -
due 2010-09-21].
AG: Dominant baselines is inconsistent i browsers because it is not
clear from the spec how to get it. No viewer gets it right
CL: Question is, is the test implementable or is there an issue/
Where do you get the dominant baseline of a random Unicode
character?
AG: Abbra is almost right
... ASV not entirely right
tbah: Sanscrit is supposed to be on hanging baseline?
AG: Yes
... Adobe shid=ft in right direction but not by the right amount.
Overshoot for small text sizes
[22]http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/text.html#AlignmentProperties
[22] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/text.html#AlignmentProperties
AG: You pull this out of the font
CL: SVG fonts don't have that info.
tbah: Don't think you can get this from Pango.
ED: Does this require getting baseline info? Not available on all
platforms
CL: Better to have defined fallback, for SVG 2
<scribe> ACTION: Anthony to investigate how to get dominant baseline
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2871 - Investigate how to get dominant
baseline [on Anthony Grasso - due 2010-09-21].
<scribe> Agenda:
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/012
2.html
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/0122.html
ED: What is the freeze date for CR report?
CL: without a freeze we won't have any implementation reports
Resolved: test freeze at end of September 2010 for 1.1SE CR report
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to check tests that need to be reviewed before
the freeze [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2872 - Check tests that need to be
reviewed before the freeze [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-09-21].
SVG Integration
ED: Are we trying to get it published so HTML5 is OK for HTML5 last
call
AG: I have new generated tables, committed them (checks)
... yes they are checked in. elements table complete
... attr table needs more work
ED: Can we get HTML5 to reference this spec?
DS: Yes, people are interested in integration issues especially
implementors
... Jeff Schiller pointed out some issues with iframe/image/object
recently
... will get this ready in next week or two
ED: need to move on this before its too late
CL: HTML WG discussed their schedule at HTCG
DS: Several open actions on Integration
... Updated params spec and script implementation, will commit soon
ED: Next FX tf next week? Is that too soon?
adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Anthony to investigate how to get dominant baseline
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: chris to bulk review the old SVGWG tests with no
status that have been published already [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Erik to check tests that need to be reviewed before
the freeze [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
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Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain
W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead
Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups
Received on Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:31:21 UTC