- From: Cameron McCormack <cam@mcc.id.au>
- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:42:26 +1000
- To: public-svg-wg@w3.org
http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html
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SVG Working Group Teleconference
24 Aug 2008
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Present
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Cameron, anthony
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Test suite
2. [4]Connection API
3. [5]Test Suite Review
4. [6]Static Attribute
5. [7]Test Suite Review
6. [8]Timer Interface
7. [9]Test Suite Review
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<heycam> trackbot, start telcon
<trackbot> Date: 24 August 2008
<heycam> Meeting: SVG Working Group Nuremberg F2F Day 4
Test suite
<ed> [11]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/4
[11] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/4
<heycam> ScribeNick: heycam
<scribe> Scribe: Cameron
[12]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/track/products/11
[12] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/track/products/11
no, it's this:
[13]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/track/products/13
[13] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/track/products/13
<anthony>
[14]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/status/test_status12T.h
tml
[14] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/status/test_status12T.html
ED: i don't think we should work on the actions that say to create a
new test
... we can't get through all of the test suite actions before we
want to republish it
... one of the main things we need to do is approve tests we think
are finished
... anthony has the list of unapproved tests, we'll go through them
one by one
trackbot, close ACTION-2167
<trackbot> ACTION-2167 Ensure lacuna values are specifically
mentioned for all default attribute values closed
<anthony>
[15]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-204-t.
svg
[15] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-204-t.svg
ED: we should just approve ones that are reviewed
<anthony>
[16]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-220-t.
svg
[16] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-220-t.svg
<ed> ED: this could be automated, by using javascript to do the
spline/calcmode calculations and using getCurrentTime and the
getPresentationTrait method(s) and comparing the two
<ed> ...would be much nicer because it could be quicker and not
require someone looking at the test for a long time
<ed> ...let's leave this as unapproved for now
<anthony>
[17]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-221-t.
svg
[17] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-221-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[18]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-222-t
[18] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-222-t
<anthony>
[19]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-222-t.
svg
[19] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-222-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[20]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-225-t.
svg
[20] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-225-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[21]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-226-t.
svg
[21] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-226-t.svg
<scribe> ACTION: Cameron to reinstate the qname type and make
animation attributeName="" use that type in the schema and the spec
[recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2170 - Reinstate the qname type and make
animation attributeName=\"\" use that type in the schema and the
spec [on Cameron McCormack - due 2008-08-31].
<anthony> approved
<anthony>
[23]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-61-t.s
vg
[23] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-61-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[24]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-63-t.s
vg
[24] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-63-t.svg
unreviewed
trackbot, close ACTION-2126
<trackbot> ACTION-2126 Make the change proposed in Issue2016 closed
<anthony>
[25]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-86-t.s
vg
[25] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-86-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[26]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/conf-reader-201-t.s
vg
[26] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/conf-reader-201-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[27]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/fonts-elem-201-t.sv
g
[27] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/fonts-elem-201-t.svg
[28]http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/fonts.html#value-def-generic-family
[28] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/fonts.html#value-def-generic-family
not approved for now
<anthony>
[29]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/fonts-glyph-202-t.s
vg
[29] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/fonts-glyph-202-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[30]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-focus-208-
t.svg
[30] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-focus-208-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[31]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-focus-209-
t.svg
[31] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-focus-209-t.svg
<anthony>
[32]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-pevents-01
-t.svg
[32] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-pevents-01-t.svg
interact-focus-209-t approved
<ed> interact-pevents-01-t.svg should replace usage of on-attributes
with xml-event handlers and also add pointer-events=boundingbox to
the test
<ed> it's not a correct 1.2T test at the moment
<ed> ACTION: ed to fix the interact-pevents-01-t.svg test to replace
usage of on-attributes with xml-event handlers and also add
pointer-events=boundingbox to the test [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2171 - Fix the interact-pevents-01-t.svg
test to replace usage of on-attributes with xml-event handlers and
also add pointer-events=boundingbox to the test [on Erik Dahlström -
due 2008-08-31].
<anthony>
[34]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-pevents-03
-t.svg
[34] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-pevents-03-t.svg
<ed> this is also using on-attributes
<ed> and letter-spacing
<ed> let's remove this test, and fix the interact-pevents-04-t.svg
test because that's very similar
<anthony>
[35]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-pevents-04
-t.svg
[35] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/interact-pevents-04-t.svg
AG: can't fix the test to not use letter-spacing since <tspan>s
can't have position attributes anyway in tiny
ED: we'll take out this test
<anthony>
[36]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-04-t.svg
[36] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-04-t.svg
<anthony>
[37]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-201-t.svg
[37] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-201-t.svg
<ed> linking-a-04-t.svg will be removed, replaced by
linking-a-202-t.svg (same but removing the view element, and the
middle subtest)
<ed> ACTION: ed to review linking-a-202-t.svg [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2172 - Review linking-a-202-t.svg [on Erik
Dahlström - due 2008-08-31].
<anthony>
[39]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-05-t.svg
[39] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-05-t.svg
<ed> ACTION: ed to review linking-a-203-t.svg [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2173 - Review linking-a-203-t.svg [on Erik
Dahlström - due 2008-08-31].
<ed> linking-a-05-t.svg will be removed, replaced by
linking-a-203-t.svg (same but removing the view element, and the
middle subtest)
<anthony>
[41]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-201-t.svg
[41] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-a-201-t.svg
<anthony> approved
<anthony>
[42]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-uri-01-t.sv
g
[42] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-uri-01-t.svg
<ed> ED: testing view elements specifically, not applicable to tiny
- let's remove it
<anthony>
[43]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-uri-02-t.sv
g
[43] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/linking-uri-02-t.svg
<ed> ED: same as linking-uri-01-t, remove
<anthony>
[44]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/media-audio-214-t.s
vg
[44] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/media-audio-214-t.svg
<ed> approved
<anthony>
[45]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/paint-stroke-203-t.
svg
[45] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/paint-stroke-203-t.svg
<ed> not approved
<anthony>
[46]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/paint-stroke-206-t.
svg
[46] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/paint-stroke-206-t.svg
<anthony>
[47]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/script-handler-201-
t.svg
[47] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/script-handler-201-t.svg
<anthony> paint-stroke-206.svg not approved
<ed> script-handler-201-t.svg not approved
ED: i'm not happy with approving this test, where it tests
functions/this-values etc.
... i'm not sure this aligns properly with XML Events and other
users of XML Events (xhtml, xhtml+voice)
... we should remove our requirements from the spec on this, too
... and leave it until Core
<ed>
[48]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/script.html#HandlerE
lement
[48] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/script.html#HandlerElement
RESOLUTION: remove the spec text about binding 'this' in <handler>s,
and check what to say about the event handler being like a Function
object
<ed> ACTION: ed to remove the 'this' keyword binding in the
'handler' element, and investigate if the execution of the handler
content is actually like a Function object or if the contents are
put in the global scope [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2174 - Remove the 'this' keyword binding
in the 'handler' element, and investigate if the execution of the
handler content is actually like a Function object or if the
contents are put in the global scope [on Erik Dahlström - due
2008-08-31].
<anthony>
[50]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/script-listener-203
-t.svg
[50] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/script-listener-203-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[51]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/script-listener-204
-t.svg
[51] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/script-listener-204-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[52]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-class-201-t.
svg
[52] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-class-201-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[53]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-common-201-t
-debug.svg
[53] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-common-201-t-debug.svg
<ed> ED: remove that, we have struct-common-201-t.svg (but fix it
since it has an error with duplicate xml:id attributes)
<ed> AG: I committed the fix for the non-debug version
<anthony>
[54]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-common-201-t
.svg
[54] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-common-201-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[55]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-cond-204-t.s
vg
[55] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-cond-204-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[56]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-cond-209-t.s
vg
[56] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-cond-209-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[57]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-cond-210-t.s
vg
[57] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-cond-210-t.svg
approved
<anthony>
[58]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-discard-203-
t.svg
[58] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-discard-203-t.svg
<ed> ACTION: ed to figure out what's bork-bork-borken with the right
red rect in struct-discard-203-t.svg [recorded in
[59]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2175 - Figure out what's bork-bork-borken
with the right red rect in struct-discard-203-t.svg [on Erik
Dahlström - due 2008-08-31].
<ed> ED: not approved
<anthony>
[60]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-svg-204-t.sv
g
[60] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-svg-204-t.svg
<ed> ED: was "in error" before
<ed> CM: changed that to unsupported, so the test should be changed
<anthony>
[61]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-svg-205-t.sv
g
[61] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-svg-205-t.svg
<ed> ED: remove this test
<anthony>
[62]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-06-t.svg
[62] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-06-t.svg
<ed> changed to be using green rects, and remove style attributes
ED: we'll remove struct-use-06 and replace it with a fixed up one in
the 2** series
AG: found that struct-use-05 was not a tiny test for various
reasons, and is now fixed up and called struct-use-207-t
<ed> struct-use-06-t is now struct-use-206-t
<anthony>
[63]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-07-t.svg
[63] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-07-t.svg
<ed> remove style attributes, remove widht and height on the use
element
<ed> remove test and replace it with a fixedup struct-use-208-t
<ed>
[64]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-208-t.sv
g
[64] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-208-t.svg
<ed> approved
<anthony>
[65]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-08-t.svg
[65] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-08-t.svg
<ed> uses width and height on the use element, lacks pass criteria
<ed> remove struct-use-08-t.svg, replace it with
struct-use-209-t.svg
<ed>
[66]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-209-t.sv
g
[66] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-209-t.svg
<ed> the resource still uses width and height on 'use'
<ed>
[67]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-209-t.sv
g
[67] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-209-t.svg
<ed> sorry,
[68]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/images/struct-use-209-t
-cycles.svg
[68] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/images/struct-use-209-t-cycles.svg
<anthony>
[69]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/styling-inherit-02-
t.svg
[69] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/styling-inherit-02-t.svg
<ed>
[70]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-209-t.sv
g was approved
[70] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/struct-use-209-t.svg
<anthony> styling-inherit-02 was already approved
<anthony> but wasn't accepted
<anthony> watermark was commented out as well
<anthony> so we should just change it to accepted
<anthony>
[71]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-align-203-t.sv
g
[71] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-align-203-t.svg
<ed> trying to test tspans with different text-anchor values, but
that's only useful when there's x and y on tspan
<ed> so let's remove the test, since it's already covered by
text-align-01-t.svg anyway
<anthony>
[72]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-202-t.svg
[72] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-202-t.svg
<ed> pass criteria?
<anthony> tests that
[73]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-208-t.svg
[73] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-208-t.svg
<ed> AE will work on adding pass criteria to text-area-202-t, let's
come back to it later
<ed> same as text-area-202, needs clear pass criteria
<ed> AE: uses percentage font-sizes
<ed> ...actually that was changed, so it's not anymore
<ed> approved after the pass criteria were clarified
trackbot, close ACTION-2160
<trackbot> ACTION-2160 Make the publication script be able to
generate a single page version closed
<anthony>
[74]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-211-t.svg
[74] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-211-t.svg
<ed> AE: finished the pass criteria on text-area-202-t.svg, marking
as accepted
<ed> ED: text-area-211 also needs clear pass criteria
<anthony>
[75]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-212-t.svg
[75] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-212-t.svg
<ed> AE: will do pass criteria for 211 and 212
<anthony>
[76]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-223-t.svg
[76] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-223-t.svg
<ed> trackbot, close ACTION-2169
<trackbot> ACTION-2169 Take out current element traversal interface
and a reference to the Element Traversal spec closed
<ed> 223 is going to be unapproved still, let's revisit it for core
(ISSUE-2041)
<anthony>
[77]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-fonts-203-t.sv
g
[77] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-fonts-203-t.svg
<ed> leave it for now, needs to have the svgfont to be correct
<ed>
[78]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-211-t.svg
[78] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-area-211-t.svg
<ed> AE: [reads new pass criteria]
<ed> ok, let's approve it
<anthony>
[79]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-intro-06-t.svg
[79] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-intro-06-t.svg
<ed> approved
<anthony>
[80]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-conform-201-t.
svg
[80] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-conform-201-t.svg
<ed> approved
<anthony> scribe: anthony
<scribe> scribeNick: anthony
Connection API
DS: We've communicated Ikivo and they've not shown strong support
... in the connection interface
... Given that there are alternatives with XHR and possible with
HTML connection interface
... in the future
ED: And GetURL and PostURL
DS: And given the review comments we got
... even though it's implemented we think it's best to drop the
connection interface
ED: It's not implemented widely
DS: But it's still implemented
AE: We've got an implementation but we understand for logistical
reasons
... that we are ok with it being taken out
ED: You could get away with an implementation with raising
exceptions
... it'd be silly
AE: We did talk about it being optional
... but we'd still have full QA for it
DS: And we don't want to have optional features
RESOLUTION: We will drop the Connection Interface
CM: Binary to String and String to Binary are useless with out
connection
... too bad I wrote those tests
ED: We can drop, Connection Event
... and bits in the table in the interaction chapter
... should we remove global exception?
... would be good if we can decide what exception to use for denied
error in timer
CM: I think we can get rid of that exception all together
RESOLUTION: We will drop Binary to String and String to Binary,
Create Connection, Global Exception and the Exception on Create
Timer
AE: JSR doesn't reference Global
ED: What about when we go to Core?
CM: If it's Object then you'd to cast it
ED: We could name what we have to something else
CM: Given that they don't implement it in Java
... I don't know if it's a binary incompatible change, not sure what
the rules are
ED: If we named Global to an empty Window
DS: We can say plug Window in here
CM: So maybe we can try that
DS: Would it be a big change?
ED: Well no
... there's not much there
CM: I think it makes it more palatable so we can hook into the
interface later
ED: I'm wondering if we can get away with an abstract view
CM: We could subset abstract view
... and take nothing out from it
ED: This looks like a big action
<shepazu> Zakim: remind me in 3 hours to oastarstarl
AE: That means we'd have to reference another spec
... I guess I don't understand what you're going to replace it with
<ed> [81]http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Views/views.html
[81] http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Views/views.html
<ed> it's a Recommendation
RESOLUTION: We will replace Global with Abstract View
<scribe> ACTION: Cameron to replace Global with Abstract View and
add the reference [recorded in
[82]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2176 - Replace Global with Abstract View
and add the reference [on Cameron McCormack - due 2008-08-31].
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to Binary to Drop the connection interface
[recorded in
[83]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2177 - Binary to Drop the connection
interface [on Erik Dahlström - due 2008-08-31].
Test Suite Review
DS: If it turns out that there is more interest in connection than
we thought
... we could always make a module
ED: Yes that should be something outside of the SVG WG
[84]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-204-t.svg
[84] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-204-t.svg
DS: Yes there is the Network spec in Web Apps
ED: The last one is using Parse XML
Static Attribute
<heycam>
[85]http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20041027/painting.html#static
-property
[85] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20041027/painting.html#static-property
DS: Looks like it wouldn't take much time to put in
ED: I don't think true and false are good values
AG: I don't think they are good either
CM: What about a different property name?
... buffer?
AE: Cache?
... we liked Static
... because it tells you what it's doing
... What about values Enable, Disable, Auto?
ED: We have shape rendering, image rendering
... can we add this to one of the already existing properties
DS: What about "rendering"
... with "static", "dynamic" and "auto"
... what about cached rendering?
AE: buffer-intent? cache-intent?
CM: I wouldn't mind buffered-rendering
... you're hinting for the speed
RESOLUTION: We will add buffered-rendering with values dynamic,
static and auto
<scribe> ACTION: Emmons to Add buffered-rendering to the
specification and create a test [recorded in
[86]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2178 - Add buffered-rendering to the
specification and create a test [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-08-31].
Test Suite Review
[87]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-204-t.svg
[87] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-204-t.svg
<ed> approved
[88]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-205-t.svg
[88] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-205-t.svg
Timer Interface
CM: I'd like to move timer from the Global module to the SVG module
... the only thing in the Global Module is the timer interface
... I'd prefer to put it in SVG Module because it's the only way to
create a timer is the SVG Global interface
... which is also in the SVG Module
... I think we have less of a right to create things in the DOM
Module
RESOLUTION: We will move timer from Global to the SVG Module and
remove the Global Module
<scribe> ACTION: Cameron to Move timer from Global to the SVG Module
and remove the Global Module [recorded in
[89]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action10]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2179 - Move timer from Global to the SVG
Module and remove the Global Module [on Cameron McCormack - due
2008-08-31].
Test Suite Review
[90]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-205-t.svg
[90] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-205-t.svg
<ed> leave as unapproved for now
[91]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-208-t.svg
[91] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-208-t.svg
<ed> opera needs null instead of empty strings there I think
[92]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-209-t.svg
[92] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-209-t.svg
<ed> approved
<ed>
[93]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-208-t.svg
left as unapproved for now
[93] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-dom-208-t.svg
[94]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-event-205-t.sv
g
[94] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-event-205-t.svg
CM: I'll change the past criteria
<ed> approved after those changes
[95]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-event-208-t.sv
g
[95] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-event-208-t.svg
<ed> approved after changing the text on the slide (circle should
stay black, it shouldn't turn blue)
[96]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-event-210-t.sv
g
[96] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-event-210-t.svg
approved after changing the test slightly and adding a visual
description
[97]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-node-203-t.svg
[97] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-node-203-t.svg
[98]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-node-203-t.svg
[98] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-node-203-t.svg
left as unapproved for now
[99]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-203-t.svg
[99] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-203-t.svg
left as unapproved for now
[100]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-206-t.svg
[100] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-206-t.svg
approved
[101]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-207-t.svg
[101] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-207-t.svg
left as unapproved for now
[102]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-212-t.svg
[102] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-212-t.svg
left as unapproved for now
[103]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-213-t.svg
[103] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-213-t.svg
modifying test by adding an animation
approved
[104]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-214-t.svg
[104] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-214-t.svg
left as unapproved for now
[105]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-215-t.svg
[105] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-215-t.svg
<ed> AE: there are similar tests, so leave this one as unapproved
for now
<ed> ...let's remove udom-svg-214-t and 215-t because we have
overlapping tests that are approved already
[106]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-220-t.svg
[106] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-220-t.svg
approved
[107]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-221-t.svg
[107] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-221-t.svg
<ed> leave as unapproved
[108]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-222-t.svg
[108] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-222-t.svg
<ed> leave as unapproved
[109]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-223-t.svg
[109] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-223-t.svg
<ed> leave as unapproved
[110]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-230-t.svg
[110] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svg-230-t.svg
<ed> invalid, must check all forms of the color
<ed> leave as unapproved
[111]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svgmatrix-205
-t.svg
[111] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svgmatrix-205-t.svg
<ed> approved
[112]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svgmatrix-206
-t.svg
[112] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-svgmatrix-206-t.svg
<ed> approved
[113]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-traitaccess-2
01-t.svg
[113] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-traitaccess-201-t.svg
<ed> approved
[114]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-traitaccess-2
02-t.svg
[114] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/udom-traitaccess-202-t.svg
<ed> pass criteria could be better
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Cameron to Move timer from Global to the SVG Module
and remove the Global Module [recorded in
[115]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Cameron to reinstate the qname type and make animation
attributeName="" use that type in the schema and the spec [recorded
in [116]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Cameron to replace Global with Abstract View and add
the reference [recorded in
[117]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to figure out what's bork-bork-borken with the
right red rect in struct-discard-203-t.svg [recorded in
[118]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to fix the interact-pevents-01-t.svg test to
replace usage of on-attributes with xml-event handlers and also add
pointer-events=boundingbox to the test [recorded in
[119]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to remove the 'this' keyword binding in the
'handler' element, and investigate if the execution of the handler
content is actually like a Function object or if the contents are
put in the global scope [recorded in
[120]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to review linking-a-202-t.svg [recorded in
[121]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to review linking-a-203-t.svg [recorded in
[122]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Emmons to Add buffered-rendering to the specification
and create a test [recorded in
[123]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action09]
[NEW] ACTION: Erik to Binary to Drop the connection interface
[recorded in
[124]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/24-svg-minutes.html#action08]
[End of minutes]
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