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Re: SVGs, word processing applications, printing, and accessibility

From: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:41:23 +0100
Cc: public-svg-print@w3.org
To: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Message-Id: <2514C0EC-8330-11D7-9C95-0003939B5AD0@btinternet.com>


thanks for replying,

you wrote:
Is it possible to take all
> (pr part) of a .doc image and paste it into a word processing
> application other than the one that created it?

well yes:
teaching staff visit peepo.com copy images from the site and paste them 
into a word document which they then print. Students who cannot read 
then follow the list of graphics to navigate to the relevant website 
'independently'. We are studying whether and how well this leads to 
student directed independent browsing at peepo.com. More able students 
with minimal reading skills, and even some able readers use peepo.com 
independently already. examples created by staff using this process are 
here: http://www.learningdifferently.com/develop/worksheets/.

this ability to repurpose the partial content using copy and paste 
should be part of the original SVG standard.
It is slightly complex, would <g></g> and <svg></svg> be natural 
divisions? at least to start with. One would then need the option to 
copy page, or copy image(group)
Could amaya implement this? I've sent an enhancement request to the 
Amaya list. perhaps you could comment there?



On Saturday, May 10, 2003, at 02:52 PM, Chris Lilley wrote:

> On Saturday, May 10, 2003, 11:01:41 AM, Jonathan wrote:
> JC> Is it possible to copy and paste an SVG image* from a web page 
> into a
> JC> word processing application? if so which one, and does it print 
> well?
> Are you asking at a specification level or an implementation level?
> At the spec level the answer is 'of course' since nothing prevents
> this. The svg has already been moved from server to client; it can
> clearly be saved locally and further manipulated.
> At the implementation level the answer is 'ask the svg implementor,
> the web browser implementor, and the word processor implementor'. The
> crucial part is the browser since that implements the 'drag selected
> image to desktop' functionality which is not defined in any spec..
> alternative ways such as 'save svg' 'save as...' are also implemented,
> for example. And then you would need a wordprocessor that either
> implements SVG or allows plugins/activex/publish and
> subscribe/bonobo/some other component architecture to allow
> wordprocessor files to contain foreign formats that are handled by
> some other code.
> JC> If the whole page is a single SVG, is it possible to do the same 
> to an
> JC> individual image that forms part of the page?
> That would require more functionality, but is still something that
> could be implemented.
> JC> *Teachers use images from our site to create their own worksheets. 
> Some
> JC> are here:
> JC> http://www.learningdifferently.com/develop/worksheets/ they are 
> saved
> JC> in .doc form my apologies.
> Ah. Talking of printing and accessibility... Is it possible to take all
> (pr part) of a .doc image and paste it into a word processing
> application other than the one that created it?
> ;-)
> -- 
>  Chris                            mailto:chris@w3.org
Received on Saturday, 10 May 2003 17:38:12 UTC

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