Re: Proposal – extension for Athletics

Thanks Paul,

We are working on top of Opentrack.run. They are already using open data of
athletics results to create nice reports. They motivated this
'standardization' process.

We are only focused on Athletics and the internal rules, but we have in
mind being compatible with other sports.

Cheers,

Martin

On Tue, May 9, 2017, 6:48 PM Paul Kelly <paul@polvo.ca> wrote:

> The BBC uses both SportsML and the ontology. SportsML to hold detailed
> data — for example, player stats and action descriptions. The ontology to
> manage basic metadata and to define relationships between concepts.
>
> I’ve also mentioned the sports vocabularies IPTC released last Fall (and
> it would be great to add one for athletics):
>
> https://github.com/iptc/sports-newscodes
>
> Martin, it appears you are already some ways towards defining a data model:
>
> http://opentrack.run/athlib/build/html/index.html
>
> Are you looking toward something that is universally applicable to all
> sports or to just athletics?
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Martin Alvarez-Espinar <
> martin.alvarez@fundacionctic.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info, Brendan.
> >
> > Apart from this SportsML, which definitely would be helpful to report
> sports news, I found the Sports Ontology that BBC created [1] to represent
> events and results. Both should be taken into account.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/ontologies/sport
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:19 PM Brendan Quinn <brendan@cluefulmedia.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Have you seen SportsML? They cover athletics among many other things as
> part of the NewsML family of standards from IPTC.
> >
> > I haven't used it recently, but the 2016 Olympics were covered using
> SportsML so I assume it can handle athletics:
> > https://iptc.org/news/olympic-games-sportsml-3-0/
> >
> > Hopefully you could base a lot of your work on their structures, or even
> just create a mapping from NewsML/SportsML to schema.org which would help
> many other people as well.
> >
> > The NewsML folks have an open community, development wiki and mailing
> list which I'm sure you would be welcome to join.
> >
> > Hope that helps, and best of luck with the project!
> >
> > Brendan
> > (Freelance consultant, Clueful Consulting Ltd in the UK)
> >
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:40 PM Martin Alvarez-Espinar <
> martin.alvarez@fundacionctic.org> wrote:
> > Hi Dan, all,
> >
> > I'm sorry, I didn't introduce myself before. I'm Martin, working for
> CTIC —a Spanish technology center—, also Head of the W3C Spanish Office.
> >
> > We recently launched a Community Group called OpenTrack [1]. Our idea is
> developing a conceptual model for Athletics (management of competitions,
> competitors, results, etc.), and a subsequent vocabulary or schema about it.
> >
> > This schema would be useful either for professional (i.e., official
> track and field events) and amateur Athletics (i.e., charity running). This
> would be really interesting for planning athletics events, publishing
> results in a common way, having directories of athletes, teams, etc.
> European Athletics is supporting the idea, as well as other Open Data
> players (timekeeping, and reporting companies), so we will expect wide
> outreach.
> >
> > At first sight, our idea was having a complete ontology, but I think
> this vocabulary should be really flexible and easy to adopt. Thus, my
> proposal is creating a schema.org extension for this domain. There are
> dozens of core concepts that will be reused and others that can be enriched.
> >
> > Currently, we are already drafting the abstract model [2] to cover all
> the use cases and requirements. I did the exercise to check the potential
> alignment with schema.org and it seems feasible. We will continue with
> the work (everyone is welcome to join us). Unless you see any problem with
> it, we will start also with this potential extension. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > [1] https://www.w3.org/community/opentrack/
> > [2] https://w3c.github.io/opentrack-cg/spec/model/overview
> >
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