Re: the suggested initial goal [ Re: Welcome!

On 12/07/16 15:56, james anderson wrote:
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>> On 2016-07-12, at 16:00, Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@topquadrant.com
>> <mailto:andy.seaborne@topquadrant.com>> wrote:
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>> On 11/07/16 17:16, james anderson wrote:
>>> good afternoon;
>>>
>>>> On 2016-07-11, at 18:09, Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>>>> <pfpschneider@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 07/06/2016 07:09 AM, james anderson wrote:
>>>>> good afternoon;
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-07-06, at 15:41, Andy Seaborne <andy@apache.org
>>>>>> <mailto:andy@apache.org> <mailto:andy@apache.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:andy@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you pleased resend your summary "Thu, 30 Jun 2016 06:05:27
>>>>>> -0700"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a concrete list place we can use as a starting point for
>>>>>> discussing
>>>>>> the scope of the work.
>>>>>
>>>>> it would help to have a list with the content indicated by this mock-up
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/sparql-exists/wiki/Examples
>>>>>
>>>>> to lay out the scope in concrete, neutral terms.
>>>>>
>>>>> best regards, from berlin,
>>>>> ---
>>>>> james anderson | james@dydra.com <mailto:james@dydra.com>
>>>>> <mailto:james@dydra.com> | http://dydra.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that if the group is going to have examples, then it
>>>> makes more
>>>> sense to have the examples be in the form of a test suite that can be
>>>> processed by current test suite tools.
>>> while this is an eventual goal,
>>>> The tests could easily have extra
>>>> material, such as a property that provides the defined results as
>>>> per the
>>>> current SPARQL spec.
>>>
>>> that practice make it more difficult to comprenend this issues, to
>>> understand tests in relation to each other and to discuss the results.
>>> the current test suite is “exemplary” in this regard.
>> james -
>>
>> Do you want to produce some examples for one of the issues?  Then I
>> think we'll be clear what you mean and how the examples get us to tests.
>>
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> yes, i did an initial example in the wiki, just to show what one needs
> to be able to look at in one plac just in order to comprehdne an issue.
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>> (BTW The example on the wiki does not display - the wiki is markdown
>> not HTML)
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> it looks like this when i display the page:

Look at the raw "markdown" and it is HTML which ends up as
((((s . ) (o . ) (p . )) ((s . ) (o . ) (p . )) ((s . ) (o . ) (p . ))) 
(s o p))

No <>

------------------------------------

<table>
<tr><hd colspan='2'>demonstrative examples</hd></tr>
<tr><td rowspan='5'>1</td>
  <tr><td>Exists with one constant</td></tr>
  <tr><td style='white-space: pre'>select * where {<br />
?s ?p ?o<br />
filter exists { ?s ?p ex:o }<br />
}</td></tr>
  <tr><td> ((((s . <http://www.example.org/s>) (o . 
<http://www.example.org/o>) (p . <http://www.example.org/p>)) ((s . 
<http://www.example.org/s>) (o . <http://www.example.org/o1>) (p . 
<http://www.example.org/p>)) ((s . <http://www.example.org/s>) (o . 
<http://www.example.org/o2>) (p . <http://www.example.org/p>))) (s o p))
</td></tr>
  <tr><td> the dataset as turtle</td></tr>

<tr><hd colspan='2'><hr /></hd></tr>

<tr><td rowspan='5'>2</td>
  <tr><td>Exists with ground triple</td></tr>
  <tr><td style='white-space: pre'>prefix ex: 
<http://www.example.org/><br />
select * where {<br />
?s ?p ex:o2<br />
filter exists {ex:s ex:p ex:o}<br />
}</td></tr>
  <tr><td> the intended solution as csv
</td></tr>
  <tr><td> the dataset as turtle</td></tr>
</table>


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> the arrangement is simplistic and arbitrary.
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> html was just the best way to get it all in one place without any
> attention to the content.
> the results arejust fillier taken literally from the output when i run
> the patel-schneider tests
> if there is some tooling to generate that from a test suite, with
> attention to layout and escaping, all good.
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> the point is just to get it all in one place.
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> best regards, from berlin,
>
> ---
> james anderson | james@dydra.com <mailto:james@dydra.com> | http://dydra.com
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