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Re: Agenda for next Social networking task force meeting: 21 May, 10AM ET - noon.

From: Rich Rogers <rrogers@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:19:56 -0400
To: Alberto Manuel <bpm.tst@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>, "public-socialweb@w3.org" <public-socialweb@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OF3DB997CB.5BC14885-ON85257A0D.005ED3A5-85257A0D.005F35A0@us.ibm.com>

I agree the Social Business Community Group can be the home for the block
diagram at this point. It fits well with the group mission re: development
of use cases that call out standards gaps & requirements, which is why
social business community group members have been contributors to the block
diagram already.  All CGs welcome to participate and make contributions
going forward as we realize that Social Web scope is not equal to Social
Business scope.
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  |Alberto Manuel <bpm.tst@gmail.com>                                                                                                                |
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  |Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>                                                                                                                          |
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  |"public-socialweb@w3.org" <public-socialweb@w3.org>                                                                                               |
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  |05/22/2012 12:32 PM                                                                                                                               |
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  |Re: Agenda for next Social networking task force meeting: 21 May,  10AM ET - noon.                                                                |

Hi all:

Regarding the challenge Use cases, requirements, scenarios, and block
diagrams once that that there is work in progress I seems to me fruitful to
let the Social Business Community Group to pick the work from the Social
Headlights and mature it.


2012/5/21 Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
  Here is a summary of the discussion for those that were unable to make
  the call.

  As background, the social networking task force was designed to be a
  short-term task force.  It had two major checkpoints, to develop a report
  for the AC meeting last week (in which we received Member input relative
  to W3C and social networking) and to prepare for W3C's internal planning
  meeting (Woods meeting) in mid-July in which W3M decides where we need to
  add resources for next year.  Accordingly, the major topic on today's
  call was what (if any) additional work needs to be done to get ready for
  the Woods meeting; and what venue should be used for continuing work.

  (Also a factor is the travel schedule of our taskforce chair (me) who is
  traveling much of June and in particular has many conflicts with our
  standard Monday meeting time including 28 May (US holiday), 4 June (on
  plane to China), 11 June (Japan), 25 June (offsite MIT meeting), and 2
  July (vacation).)

  1. Fall workshop (jointly sponsored).  We reviewed the fact that the AC
  breakout expressed strong support for this workshop - based (among other
  things) on the work on use case and requirements.  However, we determined
  that "task force mode" was not the right way to develop this.  This is
  especially because in the recommendations (see slide 8 of the third
  attachment) there needs to be careful discussion with industry players
  (not all of whom are in W3C) on the technical scope and on their
  involvement.  Accordingly, next steps were assigned to the team.  Anyone
  interested in participation, please let me know.

  2. Social apps enabled through Browser assists.  This interesting idea
  discussed in the attached charts assumes that browsers could access
  personal data in social sites.  The major AC feedback was a concern that
  Terms and conditions (for social sites) might prevent this from happening
  (at least automatically).  This is something that W3C staff counsel
  should look at.  If we determine that this is not a problem, then this
  probably becomes a candidate topic for the fall workshop.

  3. Use cases, requirements, scenarios, and block diagrams.  We were
  unclear about the best way to proceed with this work.  It seems unlikely
  that the work can be completed in task force mode since there is a
  defined end date to the task force and much work remains to boil this
  down.  On the other hand, we continue to see good contributions (such as
  Alberto's latest addition to the thread).  We discussed the following
  ideas to continue the work:
     1.	Give the Social Business CG "first right of refusal" to be the
        place to continue the work.  On the one hand, there has already
        been overlap of contribution.  So it is logical for a CG (which
        does not have such a limited time) to pick up the task force work.
        On the other hand, the scope of the block diagram is broader than
        Social Business.
     2.	Spawn a new CG to focus on use case, requirements, scenarios, and
        block diagrams for social networking overall.
     3.	Continue discussion on this mailing list
     4.	Continue in task force mode and see how far we get by July.

  My personal sense is that we should do (1), possibly leading to (2) - but
  we agreed on the call to poll the task force participants.  Please
  provide your input.

  Given the scheduling issues (mentioned above), and the assignment of
  "workshop" and "browser assists" to the team, we also concluded that this
  was probably the final task force call.  Of course, if we decide to
  continue "block diagram" in task force mode - we would have additional

  Thanks for your participation and please provide your input.


  -------- Original Message --------
     Subject: Agenda for next Social networking task force meeting: 21 May,    
              10AM ET - noon.                                                  
 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 16:58:10 +0000                                  
 Resent-From: public-socialweb@w3.org                                          
        Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:57:20 -0400                                  
        From: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>                                         
          To: public-socialweb@w3.org <public-socialweb@w3.org>                

  Here are the particulars for Monday's call.

  Zakim Information

  Monday, 21 May 14:00-16:00 UTC (10:00am-12:00pm Boston local)
  Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 7621 ("SOC1")


  1. Debrief from AC readout
     - Ann/Jeff slides, fyi attached
     - Steve slides, fyi, attached
     - Summary report from breakout to AC, fyi, attached.

  2. Next steps
     - Fulfilling the AC mandate to create high quality joint workshops
     - Discussion of the best way to continue block diagram work
         - In task force
         - In CG
         - Part of workshop prep

  3. Schedule for next calls
     - 28 May, holiday in US
     - Jeff trip to Asia
     - Final readout at "Woods" meeting on 12 July.


Alberto Manuel


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