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Re: {ACTION] Complete: Short Summary of Invited Speaker, Dave Raggett

From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:39:13 -0400
Message-ID: <4ABA16F1.8010109@abenaki.wabanaki.net>
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
CC: public-social-web-talk@w3.org

I want to draw your attention to this:

" For example usability was a drawback for P3P, which prevented it reaching its full potential."

The number of ads for CPOs fell after the GWOT program made privacy 
obsolete in the GWOT participating jurisdictions (the US, the UK, 
Australia, ...). Overlooking the first order effects of policy change on 
the adoption of a tool for policy articulation and claiming that the 
tool was defective is not useful. You could just as well make the 
assertion that since statistical profiling (Engage/CMGI, now defunct) 
failed when the Dot Com bubble burst, that deterministic profiling 
(DoubleClick, now Google), and therefore behavioral advertising that 
exploits corrolated on-line and off-line PII assets, is more "usable", 
and that "usability", and not the contraction of the on-line advertising 
revenues, explains the non-existence of one business model, and the 
existence of another.


Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> ACTION: Complete
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuestSummaries
> Dave Raggett - Meeting on September 16th 2009
> W3C Fellow, Dave Raggett, presented some slides, entitled "New
> Directions for the Web". He covered a number of topics including,
> delegation, the Web of Things, privacy and context. The general
> feeling was that we have a number of technologies to tackle these
> issues, such as P3P, OpenID and Oauth, however that the field was
> still very much in its infancy. Dave is also part of the W3C Context
> Awareness and Personalisation Working Group, which follows on from the
> Ubiquitous Web Applications Working Group, and aims to create patterns
> and ontologies for dealing with context and personalization, on the
> web.
> Moving on to questions, Dave suggested that it would be advantageous
> to have liaison between groups, so that we can try to achieve a
> unified vision. He thought that privacy was perhaps a more key issue
> than identity, and that we should learn lessons about usability from
> existing projects such as P3P, looking at what works, and more
> importantly what doesn't. For example usability was a drawback for
> P3P, which prevented it reaching its full potential. On privacy, new
> cryto techniques such as Zero Knowledge Proofs should also be
> examined. One key aim suggested was to prevent vocabulary
> fragmentation, for example, the Delivery Context Ontology could be
> mapped with others in the area, however we use tools such as Protege,
> but this is an area where we should aim to be become more
> collaborative, and ideally the toolset should evolve accordingly.
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