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Re: Proposal: Keep Group Unified, Don't Divide into Taskforces

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:54:17 -0500 (EST)
To: Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>
Cc: public-social-web-talk@w3.org
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0902270338540.19830@tribal>
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Renato Iannella wrote:

>
> On 26 Feb 2009, at 19:57, Harry Halpin wrote:
>
>> I feel the proposed charter may be too large, due to having too many
>> deliverables (15 at my last count). A smaller charter with (5)
>> deliverables was written earlier.
>
>
> I agree with Harry, and I indicated so earlier [1] - from my current 
> experiences in running an XG.
>
> This is not to say that what was has been proposed is not valuable, but taken 
> in the context of a W3C Incubator Group, the current scope is significantly 
> more than most W3C multi-year multi-working group Activities.
>
> Event the smaller charter [2] can be modified to include the core outputs:
> 1 - Use Case/Requirements
> 2 - State-of-the-Art Report (best practices)
> 3 - Final Report (next steps)
>
> I also strongly believe that the Policy/Privacy/Trust work simply be moved to 
> the W3C PLING Interest Group (as argued in [1]) as the evaluation of the XG 
> Charter [3] stipulates:

Note that I concur here, as PLING has extensive experience in this area. 
Another option is that PLING could write it in joint with the Social Web 
XG, if there are experts that are part of Social Web XG but not PLING. 
However, it might be simpler just to have those experts joing PLING.

Second, we do have a few mobile phone people involved. In the smaller 
proposed charter [2] it might be feasible to add a report that focuses 
specifically on the future of *mobile* social networking. Although I 
strongly believe in one Web that steps across mobile and non-mobile 
boundaries, a report that details the advantages of mobile networking, 
accessibility, and how the W3C can co-ordinate future work in this area 
could be useful. However, in the second, larger proposed charter [2], 
there "contextual data" and "user experience" volunteers are missing, and 
the charter is basically empty. Perhaps there is a lack of interest from 
the mobile community, despite their heavy presence at the workshop? If 
not, now would be a good time to speak up.

[1] http://esw.w3.org/topic/SocialWebXGCharter
[2] http://esw.w3.org/topic/UnifiedSocialXG


> "It is desirable to take ideas related to specific technology solutions that 
> are already being worked on elsewhere (within or outside of the W3C) back to 
> the place in which the work is taking place"
>
> I suspect this will be a major discussion point at the teleconference next 
> week.
>
> Cheers...  Renato Iannella
> NICTA
>
> [1] 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-social-web-talk/2009Feb/0046.html>
> [2] <http://esw.w3.org/topic/SocialWebXGCharter>
> [3] <http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/about.html#Scope>
>

-- 
 				--harry

 	Harry Halpin
 	Informatics, University of Edinburgh
         http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin
Received on Friday, 27 February 2009 08:54:52 GMT

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