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Re: Consolidation of Task-forces

From: Alexandre Passant <alexandre.passant@deri.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:59:31 +0000
Cc: public-social-web-talk@w3.org
Message-Id: <D400FF3E-2CD8-4584-AB8A-A6E99DE13120@deri.org>
To: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>


Le 10 févr. 09 à 19:34, Harry Halpin a écrit :

>    Looking at the Unified Charter and then activity on this list, it's
> pretty obvious we have too many task forces and not enough people to
> commit [1]. I see no reason why we should not consolidate the task
> forces. I'd rather aim for a smaller amount of quality deliverables  
> that
> include running code than innumerable reports on the current state of
> play in social networking. Remember - the point of an W3C XG is to
> figure out what needs to be *standardized* Therefore, I suggest:
> 1) That the Landscape and Business Task force merge and produce a  
> single
> report, talking about the current landscape, business potentials, and
> future for W3C standardization in the area of social networking. It
> appears that Tim Anglade and Christine Perey would appear to be  
> willing
> to edit this document. This report will be the main proposal put  
> forward
> for future work to the rest of the W3C once the XG ends.
> Also, note that internationalization and access for people of all  
> levels
> of abilities has been a strong point for the W3C, and this should
> clearly be part of the final report.
> 2) That the Privacy and Trust Group Task Force merge with the  
> Contextual
> Data Task force. It seems contextual data is also code for mobile
> phones, so obviously Distributed Architecture should take this into
> account. It appears Krisha Sankar has an interest in editing this. A
> single deliverable that inspects current solutions would be good.
> 3) That the Distributed Architectures and Interoperability task forces
> merge, and produce a single document that maps data-formats from
> differing networks and makes a case for distributed social networking.

> Fabien Gandon, Joaquin Salvachua and Krishna Sankar have all expressed
> interest in editing here.

I do agree re. joining the task forces (strong overlap between the two  
You can also count on me regarding editing / authorship some of the  
documents (preference for the distributed architectures topics).

> First thing we do as an XG is we jointly produce a use-case document
> that shows how business practices, best practices, privacy and trust,
> and distributed architectures can work together.
> Finally, we see if we can find or help produce three interoperable
> implementations (ideally building off of and working with existing
> code-bases, such as that put forward by Henry Story) that demonstrate
> running code that fulfills these ideas. Ideally, at least one of these
> code-bases would be mobile-phone based.
> Instead of 7 task forces with lots of report-based deliverables, we  
> get
> three reports, the first 2 high-level, the latter 2 technical, and  
> some
> demo code.
> 1) Final Report to W3C
> 2) Use-Cases
> 3) Distributed Architecture and Interoperability Report and Mapping
> 4) Privacy and Trust Report
> 5) Code

Re. the code, there are already various implementations over there  
(openstack, various RDF-exporters / wrappers for major sites, data- 
consumers, etc ...)
I'm wondering how 'code' itself should be considered as a deliverable.
I think it would be most appropriate to have some code in various TF,  
rather that considering code as a separate one ?
(moreover, IP / licencing issues may also be taken into account)



> We do a single telecon and mailing list at first, with option of
> bifurcating into more as needed based on task-forces once task-forces
> get going.
> Also, we call it "Social Web" XG, as that name seems most popular [2].
> Lastly, I'm happy to help chair, but I want a co-chair. Dan Brickley,
> Renato Ianella, and Fabien Gandon have also said they would be up for
> chairing, and Christine has done a good job de-factor chairing.  
> Perhaps
> people should choose between chairing and editing?
> If there are not objections, I'll refactor the charter this coming
> weekend. We can also make another Doodle talking about who would  
> want to
> join which of the consolidated task-forces, edit which documents, and
> chair.
> I'd like to see the charter go to AC membership for voting fairly
> shortly, say be Feb 23rd.
>       thanks,
>          harry
> [1] http://esw.w3.org/topic/UnifiedSocialXG
> [2] http://www.doodle.com/4zdqm65sa8qmey8w

Alexandre Passant
Digital Enterprise Research Institute
National University of Ireland, Galway
:me owl:sameAs <http://apassant.net/alex> .
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