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Re: New, Unified XG Proposal

From: Alexandre Passant <alexandre.passant@deri.org>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:21:47 +0000
Cc: public-social-web-talk@w3.org
Message-Id: <C367251B-CC37-44C0-BB95-6F3CA5A6AD38@deri.org>
To: Tim Anglade <tim.anglade@af83.com>

Hi,

Le 3 févr. 09 à 19:16, Tim Anglade a écrit :

>
> Dear workshop participants, position paper submitters, interested  
> parties…
>
> Following the vote and the concerns expressed on each side, a  
> unified Draft Charter proposal, merging the two previous Incubator  
> Group proposals, is now ready for you to visit [1]
> It is structured as a single Incubator Group with several focused  
> Task Forces inside of it.

As mentionned in the previous thread, I'm afraid that such a group  
won't be productive.
Maybe I'm wrong - but I difficultly believe that a monthly call when  
we need to talk about 7 task forces and 15 deliverables between (let's  
say) 20/30 people can be useful and realistic.

>
>
> In the process of re-crafting this charter, those of us working on  
> it took the opportunity to fold in some discussions which were not  
> in either of the charters but might still be of interest to some in  
> this large group. For example, Distributed Architectures and User  
> Experiences. The result is that the new charter is now larger than  
> the sum of the original two.

I'm sure that each topics is interesting considering a global 'social  
Web' picture. But do you think that in the same monthly telecon we can  
talk about business models, user-interfaces, dataportability, privacy,  
etc. in a productive way ?
On the other hand, I agree that some topics overlap, for instance the  
privacy and Harry's taskforce share common action items.
BTW, is that voluntary ? (I mean that kind of joint task-forces ?)

>
>
> Please come and check it out.
>
> If this exercise is going to work we need everyone's participation  
> and comments. That means, don't hesitate to start debating a section  
> about which you feel passionate or to edit or add yourself into the  
> work plan!
>
>
> The rules are simple No Editor => No Deliverable => No Task Force.  
> (Let's hope it won't go the extra step: => No XG) So please add/ 
> remove/edit the Deliverables, Task Forces, and the whole wiki page  
> away.
>

Due to the current charter and if we consider a single telecon, I'm  
afraid I won't participate actively - not because I'm not interested  
in the issue, but because I really want such an XG to do concrete  
actions / deliverables / etc and not sure the current proposal can  
achieve it.
Yet, in case there's alternative ways, either various XG, or task- 
force focused management, I'd be happy to *actively* contribute to  
some of the deliverables (i.e. co-edit / author).
But in that case, I strongly suggest that each task-force conduct a  
weekly meeting in short committee and that taskforces leaders /  
deliverables editors have then a monthly telecon - that's certainly  
more work, but I guess more productive. (is that still in the spirit  
of an XG or does it sound more like an IG ?)

Best,

Alex.


> Cheers,
> Tim
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> [1] http://esw.w3.org/topic/UnifiedSocialXG
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Alexandre Passant
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National University of Ireland, Galway
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