R: My notes on the charter document

Hello all,

My apologies for missing the first call but I was busy presenting at another meeting (on a similar topic).  I am working at Telecom Italia together with Claudio Venezia and am responsible for the "Mobile Social Network" (MobSocNet) activity within the Open Mobile Alliance (OMA), where we have a liaison open with W3C [1]. You can get some more information about MobSocNet at [2].

In general I am very happy to see this new group being created and hope to see some interesting outcomes here. I have checked the charter and the related comments.

I do believe that it would be interesting for this group to coordinate some more technical groups and initiatives on the topic in the web industry. I do see the FedSocWeb as focused on federation aspects only, and others such as PubSubHubbub or OStatus as more protocol-oriented, aiming at some specification/recommendation.
This group instead may focus on high-level concepts to be addressed in general by the future of SN standardization. Some generic areas (eg mobile, enterprise, etc) could be covered as very generic use cases, probably without the need to dig into specific details, but rather to derive some common problematic that still need to be addressed. I am talking for example at privacy (can be understood as privacy levels, targeted audience, restricted distribution optimization etc) , data portability & the so called "right to be forgotten".
Such generic topics are not yet addressed or monitored from a central "dashboard" that could make various initiatives interact with each other and foster some requirements, detailed use cases & technical work in that respect.

It may be a matter of wording but in summary I would prefer to identify "topics" rather than "use cases" in the priority list, and follow an approach of analyzing the problematic, current state-of-the-art and issue some report/whitepaper as deliverable...

Am I in line with the thoughts of the group?
Regards
Walter

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/11/StdLiaison#oma
[2] http://www.openmobilealliance.org/comms/pages/oma_2011_AR_msn.html

Da: Alberto Manuel [mailto:bpm.tst@gmail.com]
Inviato: sabato 25 febbraio 2012 19.12
A: public-socbizcg@w3.org
Oggetto: Re: My notes on the charter document

Hi:

I will only point out that on the overview when is refered about use cases executed across office/desktop scenarios as well as mobile and cloud, I would say that despite the infrastructure on top the interaction occurs can constraints execution, human nature interaction remains the same. Thus I would prefer keep the use cases "open" rather than link it to particular infrastructure where the interaction is taking place.

Regards

Alberto Manuel
No dia 24 de Fevereiro de 2012 22:07, David Robinson <robinsda@us.ibm.com<mailto:robinsda@us.ibm.com>> escreveu:
Evan,

Great feedback on the charter.

1) While I'm not opposed to spinning off new groups for certain use cases,
I think we need to do that with some caution.  There is some synergy to be
gained if we work the use cases in one place, in my opinion.  There are
probably areas of overlap that might be missed if everything spins off into
a separate group.  The community group process, I believe, allows for task
forces, or other sorts of things, and creating "tasks forces" as sub-groups
of the socbiz community group might be one way to achieve both a focused
goal as well as maintaining synergy by working on once place.

2) Agree.  I like the idea of rolling work products.  We should still set
goals for ourselves, even if it is to produce 1 use case by May (that is
only an example).  If there is better wording that makes this clearer, we
should put it in if all agree.

3) Agree.  Any suggestions on better working to add  the idea of
practitioners into the charter in a stronger way ?



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Everyone,

Thanks for a good kick-off meeting -- short, sweet, and to the point. My
favorite kind.

I'd like to share my thoughts on the charter. Overall, it reflects my
expectations for the group, but I have some specific ppints.
  1.   I'd like to suggest that when we think a use case is a priority, or
     an area of interest is a priority, we take the initiative to start
     new groups to focus on those issues. For example: we've identified in
     the Social Jam a need for work around social analytics. It may make
     sense for the socbiz group to spin that out as a separate effort, and
     monitor its success.
  2.   I think that this group can be most useful if we keep it open on a
     rolling basis. I think that's the intent from an undefined closing
     date. We may want to make it specific that our "Deliverables" won't
     be delivered in a big binder at the end of 18 months, but rather as a
     continuing stream of produced works.
  3.   One of the strengths of this group, as far as I can tell, is its
     emphasis on practitioners inside enterprises (rather than just
     vendors). I wonder if we could find ways to support that in the
     charter?
That's what I've got right now. Otherwise, it looks real good!

-Evan
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