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Re: Fwd: Optional Extra Links for Specs

From: Amelia A Lewis <alewis@tibco.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 14:39:10 -0500
To: Eric Johnson <eric@tibco.com>
Cc: SOAP-JMS <public-soap-jms@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20101207143910450350.dd02c563@tibco.com>
Summary: additional informational links, as supplied by DOM, are a good 
idea, and a practice I think that we should follow.  Obtrusive warnings 
using obsolescent (I suppress popups, doesn't everyone?) and 
reader-hostile technologies that deprecate a published specification in 
favor of an unpublished and possibly in-flux document are ... ahem ... 
a bad idea.

Amy!
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 10:24:27 -0800, Eric Johnson wrote:
> Here's a note on what the DOM3 events spec is doing with links at the 
> top of their document.
> 
> Anyone here have any opinions as to whether we should follow their example?
> 
> -Eric.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Optional Extra Links for Specs
> Resent-Date: 	Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:12:56 +0000
> Resent-From: 	chairs@w3.org
> Date: 	Tue, 07 Dec 2010 12:12:47 -0500
> From: 	Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
> To: 	chairs@w3.org <chairs@w3.org>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, Chairs-
> 
> PubRules (W3C publication rules) requires certain links to be present at
> the top of a Technical Report (TR) document.  These include:
> * This Version
> * Latest Version
> * Previous Version (where applicable)
> 
> Because it can be weeks or even months between public updates to the TR
> drafts, some groups have been adding an additional link to the Editor's
> Draft (which, in contrast to early member-only policy, are now publicly
> visible, since most groups now work in the public).  This allows people
> to consult the latest draft, so they don't review or implement
> out-of-date materials.
> 
> Also, in response to complaints that it is hard to find the link to the
> mailing list for sending comments on the spec, I have added an
> additional link, Public Comments, to indicate the mailing list.  This is
> normally buried in the "Status of This Document" boilerplate, which
> apparently some people merely skim or skip, and adding a link on top
> provides a clear and consistent place for readers to find that information.
> 
> There is real value in consistency between specifications, in both what
> is said, and where the information is located.  Consistent specs are
> easier to review properly, less at risk for misunderstanding subtle
> differences between groups, and allows readers to apply patterns they
> have learned from one W3C spec to others (following the "don't make me
> think" principle).  Nevertheless, these additional links are intended to
> be optional, for use by groups that see value in them; if they are used,
> however, it would be best for them to be used consistent with other specs.
> 
> You can see an example of the "extended dance remix" of the front matter
> in the DOM3 Events spec [1], which has the following links:
> * This version
> * Latest stable version
> * Previous version
> * Editor's Draft
> * Public Comments
> 
> We would like to have feedback on this practice, and if it is generally
> agreed to be a useful addition, would like to see it adopted by other
> groups.  What do you all think?
> 
> 
> In addition to this, there is also an ongoing thread in the HTML WG on a
> pop-up warning that informs readers of the latest editor's draft, so
> they don't invest time in reviewing a draft which may have fixed some of
> the issues they would encounter in the TR version [2]. This is a
> separate issue, but related.  Again, if this is going to be used, it
> would be good for it to be consistent between groups.  Thoughts on this
> are welcome, too.
> 
> 
> As yet, neither the additional links nor pop-up warning are explicitly
> addressed by pubrules, but some policy
> may be enacted at some point, so it would be good to see if we have
> consensus here.
> 
> 
> [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html
> [2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11324
> 
> Regards-
> -Doug Schepers
> W3C Team Contact, SVG, WebApps, and Web Events WGs
> 
> 
> 
-- 
Amelia A. Lewis
Senior Architect
TIBCO/Extensibility, Inc.
alewis@tibco.com
Received on Tuesday, 7 December 2010 19:39:48 GMT

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