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RE: [w3c sml][agenda] 2008-05-15 SML Telecon

From: Wilson, Kirk D <Kirk.Wilson@ca.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:21:48 -0400
Message-ID: <F9576E62032243419E097FED5F0E75F304C47F4D@USILMS12.ca.com>
To: "Pratul Dublish" <Pratul.Dublish@microsoft.com>, <public-sml@w3.org>
All,

 

It may be possible for me to make it to this meeting after all.  A
meeting cancellation for Thurs afternoon has freed up my time-and the
agenda looks too interesting to pass up :-) (though I may be a little
late to join).

 

Kirk Wilson, Ph.D.

Research Staff Member, CA Labs

603 823-7146 (preferred)

Cell:  603 991-8873

 

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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Pratul Dublish
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:47 AM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: [w3c sml][agenda] 2008-05-15 SML Telecon

 

Sandy->Ginny->James will be scribing this week

 

Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format 
  [w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML          in subject of email
([agenda] 
agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" = 
update number, 1st update == 2, etc. 
  [w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML   in subject of email
([agenda] 
[ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around
the 
scribe list are time-sequenced 
  i.e. less to remember
 
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on
the 
WG's administrative home page: 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone 
 
Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's 
administrative home page: 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
 
Teleconference Time and Length (two hours) 
Pacific   11 AM -  1 PM 
Mountain  12 PM -  2 PM 
Central    1 PM -  3 PM 
Eastern    2 PM -  4 PM 
UK         7 PM -  9 PM 
Paris      8 PM - 10 PM 
 
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:

 13 October, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests

                      before moratorium

 16 October:      Last publications before moratorium

 17 - 26 October: No publications

 27 October:      Publications resume

 

 

18 December, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests

                      before moratorium

22 December: Last publications before moratorium

23 December - 1 January: No publications

 2 January 2009: Publications resume

 
Proposed Agenda: 
 
1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent) 
 
2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
   New scribes see: 
   - Scribe Quick Start Guide 
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm 
   - Scribe FAQ 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 
   - Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for
reviewing 
and sending out minutes
 
Last Scribe Date           Member Name         Regrets pending 
2008-03-13                 Gao, Sandy                
2008-04-01                 Wilson, Kirk             5/15  5/22
2008-04-02                 Smith, Virginia     
2008-04-10                 Lynn, James               
2008-04-17                 McCarthy, Julia          5/15
2008-04-24                 Kumar, Pandit 
2008-05-01                 Boucher, Jordan           
Exempt                     Arwe, John                
Exempt                     Dublish, Pratul 
Exempt                     MSM 
Exempt                     PH
 
3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s): 
   - 5/1 call
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008May/att-0019/20080501
-sml-minutes.html
 
4. Membership change: BEA has left the WG
 
5. Review all bugs with external comments  
5513 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5513>  

editorial, externalComments 

Why does SML define sml:ref instead of using XLink 

5520 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5520>  

editorial, externalComments 

Why is document defined as a character sequence? 

5529 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5529>  

editorial, externalComments 

Calrify Appendix C 

5298 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5298>  

editorial, externalComments, reviewerSatisfied 

Consider using another term for 'URI scheme' 

5524 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5524>  

externalComments 

Rename section 4.4.1.1 

5545 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5545>  

externalComments 

Reconcile SML URIs with RFC3986 

5519 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5519>  

externalComments, needsAgreement, reviewerNotSatisfied 

Relationship between SML model validity and XSD validity ... 

5562 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5562>  

externalComments, needsAgreement, reviewerNotSatisfied 

SML should define an XHTML href Reference Scheme 

5561 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5561>  

externalComments, needsReview 

SML should define a Simple XLink Reference Scheme 

5522 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5522>  

externalComments, resolved, reviewerNotSatisfied 

The term "containing element" is not clear 

5542 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5542>  

externalComments, resolved, reviewerNotSatisfied 

How are SML URIs absolutized 

5518 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5518>  

externalComments, resolved, reviewerSatisfied 

Why are rules allowed on both element declaration and typ... 

5527 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5527>  

externalComments, resolved, reviewerSatisfied 

Why is NCName optional? 

5530 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5530>  

externalComments, resolved, reviewerSatisfied 

Use consistent form for MIT URI 

5543 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5543>  

externalComments, reviewerNotSatisfied 

SML URI seems overconstrained 

5546 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5546>  

externalComments, reviewerNotSatisfied 

Reconcile SML-IF with RFC 2557 

5544 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5544>  

externalComments, reviewerSatisfied 

Why does SML require that the target of SMLURI be an XML 

 
 
6. Review hasProposal bugs
5658 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5658>  

hasProposal 

restore accidental change to smlif:identityType 

5659 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5659>  

hasProposal 

schemaComplete default value 

5676 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5676>  

hasProposal 

schemaComplete should be allowed only at 1 location 

5679 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5679>  

hasProposal 

fix disparity between SML & SML-IF specs regarding SML re... 

5680 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5680>  

hasProposal 

fix errors in schematron variable substitution support te... 

5341 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5341>  

hasProposal, needsAgreement 

EPR Reference Scheme Note 

 
 
7.  Review needsReview bugs
5606 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5606>  

needsReview 

Update spec to clarify SML reference resolution 

5635 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5635>  

needsReview 

impl-defined and impl-dependent used, but not defined 

 
8. Review needsAgreement bugs
5390 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5390>  

needsAgreement 

How to handle non-embedded documents referenced by EPRs i... 

5541 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5541>  

needsAgreement 

Why is schema-less identification of reference elements i... 

5636 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5636>  

needsAgreement 

why prohibit rules on local decls/defs described by other... 

5637 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5637>  

needsAgreement 

inconsistencies in language for rule attachment to schema... 

5638 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5638>  

needsAgreement 

fix consistency of language for schematron constraints 

5653 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5653>  

needsAgreement 

Final vocabulary clean-up 

5656 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5656>  

needsAgreement 

Defining interoperability for user-defined reference schemes 

5657 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5657>  

needsAgreement 

Define implementation-defined and -dependent, use consist... 

 
in the next meeting's agenda: 
   Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be
out 
for an extended period near the bottom 
   to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top,
so 
when the next agenda goes out people 
   will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe 
next. 
 
Last Scribe Date           Member Name         Regrets pending 
2008-03-13                 Gao, Sandy                
2008-04-01                 Wilson, Kirk             5/15  5/22
2008-04-02                 Smith, Virginia     
2008-04-10                 Lynn, James               
2008-04-17                 McCarthy, Julia          5/15
2008-04-24                 Kumar, Pandit 
2008-05-01                 Boucher, Jordan           
Exempt                     Arwe, John                
Exempt                     Dublish, Pratul 
Exempt                     MSM 
Exempt                     PH

 

 
n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through 
"Generate minutes" 
   http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm 
   Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a 
public workgroup.
 
   DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word, 
to do your editing.
   Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits 
unusable even though it
   renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style 
sheets so it renders
   with subtle differences).
 
n-1. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
   Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an 
editorial check before
   sending to the full list.  Assume the chair will use a compare tool.
 
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list 
   After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the 
wg to help 
  people search the email archives more effectively, namely: 
    [w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML     in subject of email ([minutes]

agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
  As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well.
 
----
n+1. Chair
     After meeting, update good standing list

 
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