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[w3c sml][agenda] 2008-04-24 SML Telecon

From: Pratul Dublish <Pratul.Dublish@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:29:37 -0700
To: "public-sml@w3.org" <public-sml@w3.org>
Message-ID: <05EB77839C793348A2BA6837783D1F8315692AE08F@NA-EXMSG-C124.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
 Kumar->Jordan->Sandy are likely to be scribing

Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format

  [w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML          in subject of email ([agenda]

agreed to, rest chair's convention)

Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" =

update number, 1st update == 2, etc.

  [w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML   in subject of email ([agenda]

[ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention)

Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around the

scribe list are time-sequenced

  i.e. less to remember



The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on the

WG's administrative home page:

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone



Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's

administrative home page:

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc



Teleconference Time and Length (two hours)

Pacific   11 AM -  1 PM

Mountain  12 PM -  2 PM

Central    1 PM -  3 PM

Eastern    2 PM -  4 PM

UK         7 PM -  9 PM

Paris      8 PM - 10 PM



Upcoming publication moratoria:

 * 20 - 27 April: No publications

         - 20-22 April 2008: AC meeting in Beijing

         - 21-25 April 2008: WWW 2008

 * 28 April: Publications resume.



Proposed Agenda:



1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)



2. Selection of Scribe based on list below

   New scribes see:

   - Scribe Quick Start Guide

http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm

   - Scribe FAQ

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html

   - Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for reviewing

and sending out minutes


Last Scribe Date       Member Name            Regrets pending
2007-08-30                 Lipton, Paul        until mid-January 2008
2008-02-21                 Kumar, Pandit
2008-03-06                 Boucher, Jordan
2008-03-13                 Gao, Sandy
2008-04-01                 Wilson, Kirk
2008-04-02                 Smith, Virginia    4/24 and 5/1
2008-04-02                 Eckert, Zulah
2008-04-10                 Lynn, James        4/24
2008-04-17                 McCarthy, Julia
Exempt                     Arwe, John
Exempt                     Dublish, Pratul
Exempt                     MSM
Exempt                     PH



3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):

   - 4/17 waiting for the minutes to be posted



4. News from XML CG: In their 4/21 call, the XML CG approved our F2F meeting in Redmond from 10/28 to 10/30.



5. Review the bugs with new comments from Henry Thompson or David Ezell


5524<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5524>

Rename section 4.4.1.1

5543<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5543>

SML URI seems overconstrained

5544<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5544>

Why does SML require that the target of SMLURI be an XML ...

5545<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5545>

Reconcile SML URIs with RFC3986

5546<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5546>

Reconcile SML-IF with RFC 2557

5561<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5561>

decided, needsReview

SML should define a Simple XLink Reference Scheme

5562<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5562>

needsAgreement

SML should define an XHTML href Reference Scheme

5513<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5513>

editorial

Why does SML define sml:ref instead of using XLink

5520<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5520>

editorial

Why is document defined as a character sequence?






6. Review hasProposal or needsAgreement bugs
5658<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5658>

hasProposal

restore accidental change to smlif:identityType

5341<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5341>

hasProposal, needsAgreement

EPR Reference Scheme Note

5636<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5636>

needsAgreement

why prohibit rules on local decls/defs described by other...

5637<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5637>

needsAgreement

inconsistencies in language for rule attachment to schema...

5638<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5638>

needsAgreement

fix consistency of language for schematron constraints






n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use

in the next meeting's agenda:

   Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be out

for an extended period near the bottom

   to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top, so

when the next agenda goes out people

   will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe

next.


Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending
2007-08-30                 Lipton, Paul        until mid-January 2008
2008-02-21                 Kumar, Pandit
2008-03-06                 Boucher, Jordan
2008-03-13                 Gao, Sandy
2008-04-01                 Wilson, Kirk
2008-04-02                 Smith, Virginia    4/24 and 5/1
2008-04-02                 Eckert, Zulah
2008-04-10                 Lynn, James        4/24
2008-04-17                 McCarthy, Julia
Exempt                     Arwe, John
Exempt                     Dublish, Pratul
Exempt                     MSM
Exempt                     PH




n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through

"Generate minutes"

   http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm

   Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a

public workgroup.



   DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like Word,

to do your editing.

   Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits

unusable even though it

   renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style

sheets so it renders

   with subtle differences).



n-1. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)

   Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an

editorial check before

   sending to the full list.  Assume the chair will use a compare tool.



n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list

   After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within the

wg to help

  people search the email archives more effectively, namely:

    [w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML     in subject of email ([minutes]

agreed to, rest chair's convention)

  As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as well.



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n+1. Chair

     After meeting, update good standing list
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