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RE: RE: [Bug 4675] add text in section 5.3.3 to require that consumers and producers are required to implement at a minimum the uri scheme

From: Wilson, Kirk D <Kirk.Wilson@ca.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:24:49 -0400
Message-ID: <F9576E62032243419E097FED5F0E75F3032763B7@USILMS12.ca.com>
To: "Lynn, James (HP Software)" <james.lynn@hp.com>, <public-sml@w3.org>, "Sandy Gao" <sandygao@ca.ibm.com>, "Smith, Virginia (HP Software)" <virginia.smith@hp.com>
Yes, I believe Sandy's memory of the discussion is more accurate than
mine.

 

Kirk Wilson, Ph.D.
Research Staff Member

CA Labs

603 823-7146

 

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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Lynn, James (HP Software)
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:36 PM
To: public-sml@w3.org; Sandy Gao; Smith, Virginia (HP Software)
Subject: RE: RE: [Bug 4675] add text in section 5.3.3 to require that
consumers and producers are required to implement at a minimum the uri
scheme

 

This is one interpretation I hadn't thought of, but at least it makes
sense. I also like the format Sandy puts it in; it makes it very
straight forward to understand. If there are no further issues or
comments, I will make this change.

 

Jim

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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Sandy Gao
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:27 PM
To: Smith, Virginia (HP Software)
Cc: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: RE: RE: [Bug 4675] add text in section 5.3.3 to require that
consumers and producers are required to implement at a minimum the uri
scheme


According to our approved meeting minutes [1] (also accurately recorded
in comment 4 of bug 4675 [2]) 

Resolution: both consumers and producers are required to support sml uri
scheme; a producer should be able to produce IF using sml uri scheme;
define 2 levels of conformance for the IF documents; mark the defect
editorial

So I believe Ginny is right: 
- All producers MUST be able to produce IF documents using URI scheme 
- All consumers MUST be able to process IF documents using URI scheme 
- IF documents using URI scheme for all SML references (and satisfy all
other IF requirements) are level 2 conformant 
- IF documents containing at least one SML reference that doesn't use
URI scheme (and satisfy all other IF requirements) are level 1
conformant 

This matches our decision as recorded in the minutes and (more
importantly) makes a lot of sense (at least to me). 

[1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Oct/att-0114/f2f_1016
2007_minutes.html#item13 
[2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4675#c4 

Thanks,
Sandy Gao
XML Technologies, IBM Canada
Editor, W3C XML Schema WG <http://www.w3.org/XML/Schema/> 
Member, W3C SML WG <http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/> 
(1-905) 413-3255 T/L 313-3255




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RE: RE: [Bug 4675] add text in section 5.3.3 to require that  consumers
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I believe we agreed that consumers and producers are required to support
uri scheme - option 1.

--
ginny

-----Original Message-----
From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Lynn, James (HP Software)
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:32 AM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: RE: RE: [Bug 4675] add text in section 5.3.3 to require that
consumers and producers are required to implement at a minimum the uri
scheme



This actually leaves one point open (in terms of consensus):
1) All consumers need to accept and/or process sml:uri
       or
2) only Level 2 consumers need to accept and/or process sml:uri(just
like the producers).

I had thought we agreed on option 1, but this doesn't seem to be what
Kirk is saying.

J

-----Original Message-----
From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Lynn, James (HP Software)
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:21 AM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: RE: [Bug 4675] add text in section 5.3.3 to require that
consumers and producers are required to implement at a minimum the uri
scheme


This actually makes sense to me and would clear up the wording of the
original change I made to reflect the minutes (schema not scheme). If
nobody has further questions, I will go with that.

James Lynn

HP Software
610 277 1896


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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:58 AM
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Subject: [Bug 4675] add text in section 5.3.3 to require that consumers
and producers are required to implement at a minimum the uri scheme


http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4675





------- Comment #12 from kirk.wilson@ca.com  2007-10-30 10:58 ------- I
thought that the conclusion we came to was that Level 1 conformance
meant conformance to the SML-IF schema (with an "a") and Level 2
conformance meant support for the sml:uri scheme by BOTH consumers and
producers.  (We back-tracked on the earlier decision that only producers
would have to support the sml:uri scheme once we adopted the 2 level
conformance standard.)
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