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RE: [w3c sml][agenda] 2007-12-02 SML

From: Zulah Eckert <zeckert@bea.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:14:36 -0800
Message-ID: <91376FC85D675F418DF5D27BC1E8D245012AE006@repbex02.amer.bea.com>
To: "Pratul Dublish" <Pratul.Dublish@microsoft.com>, <public-sml@w3.org>
Hi Pratul,

 

 When the group agreed to the Monday meetings it was for the purpose of
making progress.  However what was not clear is that these meetings have
the status of a regular meeting and that the group would be making
substantive decisions at these meetings - as opposed to using these
meetings to firm up agreement that could then help the group make
decisions in the main SML meeting.

 

 The problem is that at the time we agreed to have an additional
meeting, there were people, like myself, who stated that they could
never make the second meeting time. 

 

 There are two rather contentious issues that I'd like to discuss on
today's agenda. Is it the intent of the chairs to come to a decision on
these at today's meeting? And if so, what is the recourse for those of
us who cannot attend the meeting?

 

Regards,

Zulah

 

 

________________________________

From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Pratul Dublish
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:12 AM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: [w3c sml][agenda] 2007-12-02 SML 

 

Zulah  -> Kumar -> Ginny will be scribing.
 
 
 
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
 
 
 
  [w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML          in subject of email
([agenda]
 
 
 
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
 
 
 
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" =
 
 
 
update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
 
 
 
  [w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML   in subject of email
([agenda]
 
 
 
[ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention)
 
 
 
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around
the
 
 
 
scribe list are time-sequenced
 
 
 
  i.e. less to remember
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on
the
 
 
 
WG's administrative home page:
 
 
 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's
 
 
 
administrative home page:
 
 
 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Teleconference Time and Length (one hour)
 
 
 
Pacific   1 PM -  2 PM
 
 
 
Mountain  2 PM -  3 PM
 
 
 
Central    3 PM -  4 PM
 
 
 
Eastern    4 PM -  5 PM
 
 
 
UK         9 PM -  10 PM
 
 
 
Paris      10 PM - 11 PM
 
 
 
 
 
Proposed Agenda:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
 
 
 
2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
 
   New scribes see:
 
 
   - Scribe Quick Start Guide
 
 
 
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
 
 
 
   - Scribe FAQ
 
 
 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
 
 
 
Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending
2007-08-30        Lipton, Paul              until mid-December 2007
2007-10-17        Eckert, Zulah 
2007-10-17        Kumar, Pandit 
2007-11-08        Smith, Virginia 
2007-11-12        Wilson, Kirk 
2007-11-15        Lynn, James 
2007-11-19        Valentina Popescu 
2007-11-26        Boucher, Jordan 
2007-11-29        Gao, Sandy  
Exempt            Arwe, John
Exempt            Dublish, Pratul
Exempt            MSM
Exempt            PH
 
 
 
3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
 
 
 
   -  11/29
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Nov/att-0347/20071129
-sml-minutes.html
 
 
4. Review and attempt consensus on the following needsReview bugs
4675 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4675>  

ASSI 

needsReview 

add text in section 5.3.3 to require that consumers and p... 

4687 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4687>  

ASSI 

needsReview 

Handling of DTDs when composing an IF document 

4770 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4770>  

ASSI 

needsReview 

Decide which schema elements should be changed to global 

4992 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4992>  

ASSI 

needsReview 

Object identity needs to be clarified 

5106 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5106>  

ASSI 

needsReview 

sml 4.2.2 epr scheme 

5291 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5291>  

ASSI 

needsReview 

Add 'Consistent Reference Schemes' section under 4.2 Refe... 

 
 
 
5. Review and attempt consensus on the following
hasProposal/needsAgreement  bugs
 
 
4637 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4637>  

ASSI 

hasProposal 

What should we do with EPR scheme? 

 

 

 

 

 
5242 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5242>  

NEW 

hasProposal 

define how the EPR scheme is resolved 

5294 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5294>  

NEW 

hasProposal 

Add an explanation on why the smlif:dataType has processC... 

 
5298 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5298>  

NEW 

needsAgreement 

Consider using another term for 'URI scheme' 

 
 
 
 
n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
 
 
 
in the next meeting's agenda:
 
 
 
   Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be
out
 
 
 
for an extended period near the bottom
 
 
 
   to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top,
so
 
 
 
when the next agenda goes out people
 
 
 
   will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe
 
 
 
next.
 
 
 
 
Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending
2007-08-30        Lipton, Paul              until mid-December 2007
2007-10-17        Eckert, Zulah 
2007-10-17        Kumar, Pandit 
2007-11-08        Smith, Virginia 
2007-11-12        Wilson, Kirk 
2007-11-15        Lynn, James 
2007-11-19        Valentina Popescu 
2007-11-26        Boucher, Jordan 
2007-11-29        Gao, Sandy  
Exempt            Arwe, John
Exempt            Dublish, Pratul
Exempt            MSM
Exempt            PH
 
 
n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
 
 
 
"Generate minutes"
 
 
 
   http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
 
 
 
   Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
 
 
 
public workgroup.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word,
 
 
 
to do your editing.
 
 
 
   Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits
 
 
 
unusable even though it
 
 
 
   renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style
 
 
 
sheets so it renders
 
 
 
   with subtle differences).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
n-1. Scribe: (optional)
 
 
 
   Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
 
 
 
editorial check before
 
 
 
   sending to the full list.  Assume the chair will use a compare tool.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
 
 
 
   After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the
 
 
 
wg to help
 
 
 
  people search the email archives more effectively, namely:
 
 
 
    [w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML     in subject of email ([minutes]
 
 
 
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
 
 
 
  As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----
 
 
 
n+1. Chair
 
 
 
     After meeting, update good standing list
 
Thanks!
Pratul

 
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