RE: [w3c sml] [agenda] 2007-08-23 SML Teleconference

As per John's suggestion in item #6 below, I claimed ownership of three
bugzillas this morning (I'll thought I would get the ball rolling):

 

4637: EPR Scheme

4684: sml:keyref referencing xs:key/unique

4775: Change skip to lax in wildcards.

 

Should we be "instigating discussion" before the F2F-like in the next
two days?

 

I don't know if these are my "favorite" bugzillas, but they are one that
I think I can fairly quickly instigate a discussion.  

 

Kirk Wilson, Ph.D.
Research Staff Member

CA Labs

603 823-7146

 

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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of John Arwe
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:45 PM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: Fw: [w3c sml] [agenda] 2007-08-23 SML Teleconference

 


Zulah seems to be the lucky winner of this week's Scribe lottery. 
James is on deck. 
  
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format 
  [w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML          in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" =
update number, 1st update == 2, etc. 
  [w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML   in subject of email
([agenda] [ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around
the scribe list are time-sequenced 
  i.e. less to remember 
  
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on
the WG's administrative home page: 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone>  
  
Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's
administrative home page: 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc>  
  
Teleconference Time and Length (two hours) 
Pacific   11 AM -  1 PM 
Mountain  12 PM -  2 PM 
Central    1 PM -  3 PM 
Eastern    2 PM -  4 PM 
UK         7 PM -  9 PM 
Paris      8 PM - 10 PM 
  
Proposed Agenda: 
  
1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent) 
  
2. Selection of Scribe based on list below 
   New scribes see: 
   - Scribe Quick Start Guide 
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>  
   - Scribe FAQ 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html>

  
Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending 
2007-06-13        Eckert, Zulah 
2007-06-13        Lynn, James 
2007-06-21        Gao, Sandy 
2007-06-28        Valentina Popescu         
2007-07-05        Brian You                 
2007-07-12        Wilson, Kirk               
200y-mm-dd        Vijay Tewari              through 8/20/2007 
2007-07-19        Lipton, Paul 
2007-07-26        Kumar, Pandit 
2007-08-02        Boucher, Jordan 
2007-08-09        Waschke, Marvin 
2007-08-16        Smith, Virginia           9/13 through 9/27 
2007-06-12        Tabbara, Bassam           Until 10/30/07 
Exempt            Arwe, John                 
Exempt            Dublish, Pratul           
Exempt            MSM 
Exempt            PH 
  
3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s): 
   -  8/16 minutes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Aug/att-0050/20070816
-sml-minutes.html 
  
4. Review overdue action items http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/
<http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/>  
  
5. Triage the  bugs for which the Milestone/Keyword fields have not been
set http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=SML
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=SML>  
    
6. Assigning needsAgreement bugs to owners 
   Everyone please come with a list of your favorite 5 (10?) bugs that
you would like to be responsible for 
   instigating discussion around with a goal to forge an agreement on
RSN "real soon now".  Must be in 
   Second draft+P1+needsAgreement state.  Feel free, if the current
owner is MSM, to update them to be you 
   in advance of the meeting (carrot: we won't need to discuss those,
and you get your pick of the litter!). 
   As the state indicates, goal is to get them closed by the mid-Sept
working draft since we plan to solicit 
   review of that from XML Schema wg specifically. 

   Of course, if you are unable to make the call... [cue: Jaws theme] 

7. Schema binding (knowing which model def docs are used to validate
each model instance doc, for fun and profit) 
   Sandy to send introductory materials tonight/early Wed morning.
These will lay out the requirements and 
   constraints.  Questions on the materials will be discussed.  Sandy
and Valentina will provide a second doc 
   containing some alternatives and their proposal "real soon" so
ideally we can discuss next week at F2F.  You 
   will need to have read the intro materials to have any hope of
understanding the alternatives, unless you are 
   already an expert in both schema and SML. 

8. Null references 
   Discuss need for them (or lack of), if not closed in email thread by
Thu.  I will instigate. 

9. Target required and null references 
   Discussion if not closed in email by Thu.  I will instigate. 
  
n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda: 
   Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be
out for an extended period near the bottom 
   to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top,
so when the next agenda goes out people 
   will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe
next. 
  
Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending 
2007-06-13        Eckert, Zulah 
2007-06-13        Lynn, James 
2007-06-21        Gao, Sandy 
2007-06-28        Valentina Popescu         
2007-07-05        Brian You                 
2007-07-12        Wilson, Kirk               
200y-mm-dd        Vijay Tewari              through 8/20/2007 
2007-07-19        Lipton, Paul 
2007-07-26        Kumar, Pandit 
2007-08-02        Boucher, Jordan 
2007-08-09        Waschke, Marvin 
2007-08-16        Smith, Virginia           9/13 through 9/27 
2007-06-12        Tabbara, Bassam           Until 10/30/07 
Exempt            Arwe, John                 
Exempt            Dublish, Pratul           
Exempt            MSM 
Exempt            PH 

n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes" 
   http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>  
   DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word, to do your editing. 
   Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits
unusable even though it 
   renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style
sheets so it renders 
   with subtle differences). 
  
n-1. Scribe: (optional) 
   Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before 
   sending to the full list.  Assume the chair will use a compare tool. 
  
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list 
   After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the wg to help 
   people search the email archives more effectively, namely: 
    [w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML     in subject of email ([minutes]
agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
   As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well. 
  
---- 
n+1. Chair 
     After meeting, update good standing list 

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