Re: Identifiers (was Notes from today's meeting)

Hi all,
sorry for following this a bit lightly.
If you have multiple validation patterns in a dataset you need to be able to specify what applies to what, otherwise is too weak.

Perhaps it makes more sense to see the problem from the opposite point of view:

This dataset has the URI collection uniprot, that share the pattern XXXX. It doesn't mean that all uniprot share it. The pattern defines the collection. 
So instead of listing patterns per dataset, you list sets of homegenous URIs to which you give an identity (the collection) that you can use for some purposes (e.g.: applying the pattern to get an ID).

makes sense ?

ciao,
Andrea

Il giorno 04/giu/2013, alle ore 14:20, Jerven Bolleman <me@jerven.eu> ha scritto:

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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Michel Dumontier <michel.dumontier@gmail.com> wrote:
> The point here is simple. if you provide a URI uniprot:1.2.3.4, i would like to know that this is incorrect.
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> m.
> Yes, but the model needs to be good enough to tell you that. The model discussed yesterday with
> data item identifer regex pattern is not strong enough to do so. The void uriRegexPattern might be good enough.
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> :x a void:Dataset ;
>    void:uriRegexPattern "ec:[1-6].\d.\d.\d" , "uniprot:P\d{5}" .
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> But I am thinking that we can have stronger validation patterns if we think a bit more.
> e.g. can we think of something that can prevent.
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> uniprot:P12345 a up:Sequence .
> sequence:P12345 a up:Protein .
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> And is a dataset description the right place for this validation data?
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> Regards,
> Jerven
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Joachim Baran <joachim.baran@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 4 June 2013 08:56, Jerven Bolleman <me@jerven.eu> wrote:
> uniprot:P12345 a up:Protein ;
>                        up:enzyme ec:1.2.3.4 .
> ec:1.2.3.4 a up:Enzyme .
> What if my data is  
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> uniprot:1.2.3.4 a up:Protein ;
>                        up:enzyme ec:P12345 .
> ec:P12345 a up:Enzyme .
>   I do not understand the new example. You just switched the identifiers?
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> What if I don't have a regular expression for one of the sets?
>   I suggest it implies the set of all URIs, i.e. the regexp: .*
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> Or two very similar ones?
> e.g. mgi and pubmed?
>   Take the union regexp.
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> Joachim
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> Michel Dumontier
> Associate Professor of Bioinformatics, Carleton University
> Chair, W3C Semantic Web for Health Care and the Life Sciences Interest Group
> http://dumontierlab.com
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> Jerven Bolleman
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