Re: Identifiers (was Notes from today's meeting)

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Jerven Bolleman <me@jerven.eu> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The problem with the current suggested solution is that it does not
> account for a mix of identifiers in a dataset.
> This is because in RDF we have resources not data items.
>
> So in case of uniprot.org we have lots of identifiers in a single
> dataset. Identifying annotation, ranges, go terms etc... etc...
> The modeling does not support that common use case of having multiple
> identifier sources in a single dataset.
>
> So if I have a dataset like this .
>
> uniprot:P12345 a up:Protein ;
>                        up:enzyme ec:1.2.3.4 .
> ec:1.2.3.4 a up:Enzyme .
>
> How do I describe correctly the fact that a user should expect both
> identifiers of the type 1.2.3.4 and P12345?
>
>
easy. provide two matching patterns.

m.


> Also look beyond the boundaries of life science. What happens when you add
> geo or physical data?
>
> Regards,
> Jerven
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:45 PM, N Juty <juty@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The GO abbreviations and cross-referencing list is one of a few possible
>> lists that could be used, but there would be overlap and inconsistencies in
>> coverage and namespace assignments, especially when using more than one
>> such list to bridge any gaps. A lot of these lists are also 'static', with
>> no real way to add new information.
>>
>> If we went down the route of a global 'authority', I would hope
>> Identifiers.org would be a good candidate; we have gone to a lot of effort
>> in collating data from a variety of such cross-referencing lists. Right now
>> we are working on incorporating namespace, resource, regex information,
>> etc. from Michel's extensive list: https://docs.google.com/**
>> spreadsheet/ccc?key=**0AmzqhEUDpIPvdFR0UFhDUTZJdnNYd**
>> nJwdHdvNVlJR1E#gid=0<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmzqhEUDpIPvdFR0UFhDUTZJdnNYdnJwdHdvNVlJR1E#gid=0>
>>
>> In addition, since Identifiers.org has a dedicated curation team, we
>> regard ourselves as being quite responsive and proactive...
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/06/13 12:12, Joachim Baran wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2013-06-04, at 5:27 AM, Alasdair J G Gray <
>>> Alasdair.Gray@manchester.ac.**uk <Alasdair.Gray@manchester.ac.uk><mailto:
>>> Alasdair.Gray@**manchester.ac.uk <Alasdair.Gray@manchester.ac.uk>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again, there is a scoping problem. Prefixes are locally scoped and must
>>>> be defined.
>>>>
>>>   At least in life sciences, there are the Gene Ontology abbreviations
>>> for cross-referenced databases: http://www.geneontology.org/**
>>> doc/GO.xrf_abbs <http://www.geneontology.org/doc/GO.xrf_abbs>
>>>
>>>   That document defines a wide range of prefixes, base URIs and URI
>>> templates for resolving relevant identifiers, and provides regexps for
>>> validating the syntax of identifiers.
>>>
>>>   I think that the GO xrefs are extremely useful and would be on
>>> Michel's side on including them.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Joachim
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------------**--------------------------
>> Nick Juty
>> Database Curator
>> European Bioinformatics Institute
>> Cambridge, United Kingdom
>> ------------------------------**--------------------------
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jerven Bolleman
> me@jerven.eu
>



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Michel Dumontier
Associate Professor of Bioinformatics, Carleton University
Chair, W3C Semantic Web for Health Care and the Life Sciences Interest Group
http://dumontierlab.com

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