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Re: SKOS/Datasets

From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:14:52 +0100
Message-ID: <9d93ef961002260614k74f1d6dcg513705a25e29eea3@mail.gmail.com>
To: hans.cools@agfa.com
Cc: SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org, Rebecca S Guenther <rgue@loc.gov>
Hi Hans

Regarding languages in ISO 639, are you aware of the URIs / ontology I've
made public since 2007 at http://lingvoj.org?
Also in copy is Rebecca Guenther in charge of ISO 639 codes at Library of
Congress, according to whom a publication of ISO 639 codes in SKOS was on
the LoC roadmap.
See http://id.loc.gov/authorities/about.html

My idea at lingvoj.org like yours, I guess, was to provide placeholderURIs
default any publication by the authoritative ISO source. As soon as
authoritative URIs are published by the relevant source, we should in good
practice deprecate our URIs to those. Except we have no specific RDF
vocabulary for URI lifecycle, such as "deprecatedResource" and "replacedBy",
but that another story. At least we have owl:sameAs :)

Rebecca, any idea when id.loc.gov is likely to release ISO 639 URIs?

On a more technical level I uploaded your language ontology in Protégé 4 and
saved in RDF-XML (I belong to this strange sort of people reading better XML
than text formats for RDF and the result is a bit weird : the blank nodes
representing Concepts linked to Language instances through skos:exactMatch
are broken, e.g., see below [1]. Seems that Protégé is not happy with your
user-defined datatype for notations :(

BTW why not representing Language directly as a sub-class of skos:Concept
and attach each to the various schemes (ISO 639-1, 639-2, 639-3) it belongs
to? Something I don't define at lingvoj.org, bu which seems a good idea to
add. Put it on my todo list.

Bernard

[1] Output of Protégé 4 RDF-XML for "French"

    <foster:Language rdf:about="fre">
        <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#Thing"/>
        <rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:datatype="
http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#anyURI"
            >http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#
</rdfs:isDefinedBy>
        <foaf:name xml:lang="en">French</foaf:name>
        <skos:exactMatch>
            <rdf:Description/>
        </skos:exactMatch>
        <skos:exactMatch>
            <rdf:Description/>
        </skos:exactMatch>
    </foster:Language>
    <rdf:Description>
        <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-1"/>
    </rdf:Description>
    <rdf:Description>
        <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-2"/>
    </rdf:Description>
    <rdf:Description>
        <skos:notation rdf:datatype="
http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-2DT
">fre</skos:notation>
    </rdf:Description>
    <rdf:Description>
        <skos:notation rdf:datatype="
http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-1DT
">fr</skos:notation>
    </rdf:Description>


2010/2/26 <hans.cools@agfa.com>

>
> Dear Antoine,
>
> I've put 3 links on page http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets:
>
> - country codes as standardized in ISO 3166-1 version 2006;
> - languages codes as standardized in ISO 639;
> - clinical drug administration forms along FDA.
> Note: namespaces on http://www.agfa.com/w3c/2009/ not fixed yet.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> *
> Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare*
> Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research
> T  +32 3444 8185 | F  +32 3 444 8401 | M  +32 499 59 55 75
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>  *Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>*
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> 26/02/2010 09:34
>   To
> Hans Cools/AXCXW/AGFA@AGFA, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
> cc
>   Subject
> Fwd: [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good" Ontologies
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> Dear Hans,
>
> Your following 'ontology' looks interesting, and might interest some people
> on the SKOS list!
>
> Could you advertise it as well on
> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:                  [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good" Ontologies
> Date:                  Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:06:00 +0100
> From:                  hans.cools@agfa.com
> To:                  uschold@gmail.com
> CC:                  diglib@infoserv.inist.fr, dl@dl.kr.org,
> elsnet-list@mailman.let.uu.nl, obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net,
> owl@gimli.mindlab.umd.edu, people@semanticdesktop.org,
> protege-discussion@mailman.stanford.edu,
> protege-owl@mailman.stanford.edu, public-media-annotation@w3.org,
> public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org, public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org,
> sem-grd@ogf.org, semanticdesktop@lists.deri.org,
> semantic_web@googlegroups.com, swikig@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de
>
>
>
>
> Dear Michael,
>
> As an exaple of our ontology series, we put 'Countries' on
> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main, using SKOS.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> *
> Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare*
> Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research
> T +32 3444 8185 | F +32 3 444 8401 | M +32 499 59 55 75
>
> Quadrat NV, Kortrijksesteenweg 157, 9830 Sint-Martens-Latem, Belgium
> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/
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> *Michael F Uschold <uschold@gmail.com>*
> Sent by: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org
>
> 18/02/2010 07:03
>
>
> To
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> elsnet-list@mailman.let.uu.nl, obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net,
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> protege-owl@lists.stanford.edu, public-media-annotation@w3.org,
> semanticdesktop@lists.deri.org, semantic_web@googlegroups.com,
> sem-grd@ogf.org, swikig@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de,
> public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
> cc
>
> Subject
>                 Request for "Good" Ontologies
>
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>
> This message is about an effort you may wish to know about and hopefully
> contribute to.
>
> *WHAT: T*he _NeOn project_ <http://www.neon-project.org/> is supporting
> an effort to collect high quality ontologies.
>
> I invite you to submit one or more "_exemplary ontologies_
> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
> to a growing catalog in the _Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_
> <http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/>.
> Identify one or more ontologies that:
>
>     * you have significant knowledge or experience with,
>     * you regard as an excellent example of a "high quality" ontology
>       See: "_What is an Exemplary Ontology_
>       <
> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
>       for ideas about this; edit them if you wish.
>
> Can you or any of your colleagues think of exemplary ontologies to add
> to the catalog? Think first about the ontologies you have used that are
> authored by others, rather than your own.
>
> *WHY: * /to make it easy for people to find good ontologies to draw
> inspiration from and to emulate./
>
> If you don't have much time, I will make it easier by talking you
> through it on the phone. I'm UscholdM on Skype.
>
> *HOW: *Quick Instructions:
> 1. Visit *_Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_*
> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/> (_http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/_
> )
> 2. Click the "*_How to register_*
> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register>" link at lower
> left of the page; follow instructions to get a login name and password.
> ---Or paste: _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register_ into
> your browser
> 3. See: "*_What is an Exemplary Ontology_*
> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
> link for some criteria
> ---Or paste:
> h_ttp://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology_
> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>
> into your browser
> 4. Visit *Exemplary Ontology Catalogue*
> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main> page to make sure
> the ontology is not already there.
> ---Or paste: _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main_ into
> your browser
> 5. Click the *Su/bmit a new Exemplary Ontology/* button.
> 6. Fill out a form describing various aspects of the exemplary ontology.
> Key fields are:
> 1. *Name *of ontology
> 2. *Description *(Short)
> 3. *Purpose *of the ontology
> 4. *Justification *(why you think this is an exemplary ontology)
> 5. *URI *of where to find the ontology
> 6. *References *One or more references to learn more.
> Thanks very much,
> Michael
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Bernard Vatant
Senior Consultant
Vocabulary & Data Engineering
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