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Re: When does a document acquire (web) semantics?

From: John Madden <john.madden@duke.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:04:02 -0500
Cc: Chimezie Ogbuji <ogbujic@ccf.org>
Message-Id: <97DEE3F3-107C-4B9C-AD3D-C2097A295D42@duke.edu>
To: w3c semweb HCLS <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
Chime,

Agreed. 

Another question is whether any particular RDF representation *should* carry any authority.
To take the most trivial and unproblematic case, suppose the author is just plain unskilled at rendering his meaning as triples. Maybe his RDF is junk. Maybe we should ignore it.

You might say that this is just the same as the situation where a particular doctor doesn't speak English very well, and issues a garbled report -- and that's a familiar and unproblematic situation.

I'd argue it's different. I'd say it's more akin to the situation where a doctor issues a report, then is asked to translate his own report into another language that he doesn't speak very well. What do you do with his translation -- do you give it any authority?

John


On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Chimezie Ogbuji wrote:

> On 2/2/10 8:25 AM, "John Madden" <john.madden@duke.edu> wrote:
>> This makes it rather difficult to use RDF in clinical care. With English
>> language documents, we reject those that are not signed and original (or
>> faithful copies of the signed original) for purposes of clinical care. But in
>> the SW world, there is no special status. You can't sign it. You can't
>> guarantee that your triples will stick together, or be picked apart.
> 
> There is no formal way to sign it, but you can get a trusted copy of the
> original if the author provides a faithful representation in it in RDF
> (which is what GRDDL and other similar mechanisms - RDFa, etc. - are all
> about).  This does carry some authority about how well the statements
> represent the information in the original artifact.  In addition, the
> concrete syntax can be signed digitally (same as any other file), authorship
> can be asserted in the content (Clinician A created the set of RDF triples
> B) in addition to other provenance such as when it was created which
> structured data source it was transcribed from.
> 
>> You can't even expect to know where a particular triple came from (who was the
>> original assertor of the triple).
> 
> See above.
> 
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