RE: SNOMED CT

Dear all,
 
Thanks for John for getting me on the list. Hi to Christine!
 
As I don't know who else are on the line, let me first briefly introduce myself.
I'm an assistent professor at the dept of Medical Informatics in the U of Amsterdam.
My research is on (bio)medical ontologies and formal representation thereof.
I'm co-chairing AMIA's Formal (bio)medical Knowledge Representation Working Group (with Stefan Schulz).
I'm member of the Quality Assurance Committee of IHTSDO, who're fostering SNOMED CT.
 
If you want to research SNOMED CT, I suggest you get a license for the UMLS.
This will also provide you with the possibility of downloading the release distro of SNOMED CT.
You will however be required to submit an annual report (can be short), as you are in a non-IHTSDO-member country.
 
As said, per the next release (due tomorrow) SNOMED CT will also be released in stated form, together with a script to convert that into OWL.
This can then be classified using a reasoner, e.g., CEL, FaCT or the seamingly upcoming CB reasoner (to mention a few).
 
There'll be quite some water under the bridge, but I regard this as a major opportunity to put SNOMED CT and reasoning with SNOMED CT to the test.
 
I hope to join tomorrow's call, but it may conflict with private matters.
 
Best regards,
Ronald
 
 

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	From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org [mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christine Golbreich
	Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 22:05
	To: John Madden
	Cc: w3c semweb HCLS; Khaled Khelif
	Subject: Re: SNOMED CT
	
	
	Hi John 
	 
	Could you please be more explicit  ?
	 
	OWL 2 EL profile provides class constructors that are sufficient to express  SNOMED CT 
	see
	http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-owl2-profiles-20081202/#OWL_2_EL
	and references of 
	*	5.7 Use Case #7 - The Systematized Nomenclature of Medicine [HCLS] <http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/New_Features_and_Rationale#Use_Case_.237_-_The_Systematized_Nomenclature_of_Medicine_.5BHCLS.5D>  
	Christine
	 
	2009/1/29 John Madden <john.madden@me.com>
	


		You can follow Helen's link from an earlier post. Also in a forthcoming release of SNOMED CT a script will be included to convert SNOMED in a mechanical way into OWL syntax.
		
		Unfortunately, a mechanical translation of SNOMED CT into OWL may not help you much, depending on your application. SNOMED CT is not designed with the  same logical expressivity of OWL nor with the same formal semantics, and therefore the result of a translation is not apt to be useful without additional modeling or remodeling. I generally suggest people who want to use OWL for a particular application create their own OWL ontology and map to SNOMED CT for what it may add.
		
		Also, I see you are in France, which is not a member of the IHTSDO (http://www.ihtsdo.org <http://www.ihtsdo.org/> ). If you wish to use SNOMED CT, you must look into obtaining a license.
		
		John 



		On Oct 22, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Khaled Khelif wrote:
		
		


			Hi all,
			I am looking for the SNOMED CT in OWL.  Any one have idea of a
			version in OWL or in any other convertible format.
			
			Thanks in advance
			
			Best regards
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			Khaled KHELIF
			Phd. - Expert engineer on the Sealife Project
			Edelweiss Research Team - INRIA Sophia Antipolis
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	Christine