Re: HCLS March 1 TC Minutes

HCLS March 1 TC MinutesWe attempted internal narration for our recent demo, 
which was a good exercise in finalizing the script with professionals in 
most areas except voice overs, but after the fact it was unanimous that we 
should seek a voice pro. After quite a search we found a real pro at 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Neumann
To: public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: HCLS March 1 TC Minutes


The public IRC log can be found at: 
http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-hcls-minutes.html

Thanks to Tonya for scribing...

Thurs, March 1 Teleconference Agenda and Minutes:

Time: 11:00 am EDT March 1, 2007 in America/New York
Chairs: Eric Neumann, Tonya Hongsermeier

Agenda:
a) Convene, take roll, review record

b) Propose next HCLS call March 8, 2007, nominate a scribe

c) Update on possible NCBI URI space

d) Previous Actions items:
     i. Role definition of SWD editor for controlled vocabularies - ACTION 
ITEM: Revisit Next Week
     ii. Vipul to invite Stan Huff to present his work to this group - 
ACTION ITEM: Revisit Next Week
     iii. Task forces' draft pages -

Draft Notes, Eric, Vipul submitted link, Susie: what are these notes?  We 
are focused on the demo at the moment, sole goal right now, URI note, who 
owns?  Eric:  Please create a draft for BIO RDF  Susan: we have pages that 
have been written, but these are not action item deliverable,  BIO RDF links 
have been posted. URI note 
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Documents?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=getting-information.txt 
Eric had difficulty retrieving notes deliverables from F2F meeting, we still 
should be on track to produce the documents
     iv. Summary of discussion between EricN and Alan on possibility of 
including Tox data in the demo



Eric and Alan discussed question of any proposed therapeutic approaches, 
potential clinical studies that show tox effects, Alan: limiting factor is 
manpower, need someone to ID the use cases, once that is layed out, Matthias 
and Alan can proceed, need a narrative, can you do that?  Eric = we can 
easily mangle data together, Alan: demo is focused on real uses, snippets, 
but points will be technical points, doesn't have to be a connected 
narrative, but illustrate queries, that even in a fragmented way, illustrate 
how the data can be accessed using RDF,  ACTION ITEM: Eric:  I can deliver 
probably deliver something in the time frame,  Alan I need to know which are 
the minimal things I need to connect to to create your story, just some 
specific compounds,
v.   AlanR "grocery list" of data and tools
I sent some out in the form of ideas of actual things to do in the demo - 
posted to IRC - we'll talk more on Monday during the face to face, Eric P. 
will not be able to attend design session, but bill be at the hacking 
session,  trying to convert GENSET, for data integration, trying to do demo 
where a mapping is in place, then add a new mapping, requery and see new 
results, will do this over cell types, for demoing specificity, will do 
search against Google, compare with SPARQL query, for comparing standard 
relational model from SQL to SPARQL, will want to show that when you have a 
relational database, flash a relations diagram and struggle forward vs 
SPARQL whereby you can pull the classes and properties and improve 
discoverability efficiency,  for Browsing, am thinking about different UI 
approaches, can use a timeline illustration, graph illustration, show how 
different visualization approaches work,  Alan dropped these into IRC log, 
Eric: will you be able to id URIs for different tissues -  Alan spoke too 
fast..  Vipul: alan, transitive closure?  Alan - there is a nice one, taking 
biopax and adding 4 superproperty relations and a transitive role, then 
suddenly can do new queries, Vipul:  also transitive closure over GO 
relations  Alan:  one of the issues with doing this inside the triple store 
is the question of the triple store supporting it

     vi. BIRN data discussion



     vii. F2F planning: demo hack session (Susie and Vipul)
Susie:  Swann folks will host the meeting, will have phones in the room, 
second F2F on the 13th of March to focus on linking the data sets together,


e) Additional WWW2007 planning

Susie - many opportunities to present the Demo, many conferences, Who will 
present at WWW20007, IVAN: I need names of presenters, title into agenda by 
end of day tomorrow, typically no more than 2 presenters,   Eric : is the 
HCLS track only?  Ivan; No the W3C track, within 90 minutes devoted to 
Semantic web, a 30 minutes lot,  Eric; Alan should be one?    Alan : can one 
of the SWAN folks present on the science context, 4 minutes tops - IVAN - 
Alan and Susie can handle... Alan:  would be nice if Susie did this with me, 
Ivan:  I'm happy, send me a title  ACTION Alan and Susie will propose 
session to Ivan by tomorrow

Eric:  additional planning, Kei - too much echo to scribe - plan is to 
accept 8-10 papers for an entire day event, as we go along, if we refine 
further, will let group know what the structure is,  Eric;  will post in 
future TCs, Kei:  aiming for 2 keynote speakers, one is Carole Goble, 
looking for another one, ideally someone from industry,  and 5 for a panel 
discussion,  Susie mentioned submission for ISMB,  I will go ahead and 
submit the HCLS paper we already written to special ISMB section on 
"highlighted papers",

Next call is next week. review outcome of the Monday meeting

End of minutes

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