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Re: Clinical semantics and coverage in OBI / OBO - was Re: HCLS SW "Web Metro Map"

From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 04:48:52 +0200
Message-Id: <6C249317-3EF8-48D7-9F26-4E92C6D89CEC@gmail.com>
Cc: <ogbujic@ccf.org>, <samwald@gmx.at>, <kei.cheung@yale.edu>, <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>, <Kerstin.L.Forsberg@astrazeneca.com>
To: "Kashyap, Vipul" <VKASHYAP1@PARTNERS.ORG>

Hi Vipul,

I looks like you are trying to create bridges across words, in this  
case "process". I think the problem is that words are already  
confusing and overloaded, and trying to tie the different meanings  
together further exacerbates the problem. Consider instead

a) Thinking of such words as "process" as needing disambiguation  
pages, like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_%28disambiguation%29

b) Putting some meat on the definition of what you are calling  
"Clinical Process".  Just putting the two words together doesn't give  
me a clear idea of what is being referred to.

Regards (sleepless in Innsbruck)
Alan

On Jun 6, 2007, at 4:36 AM, Kashyap, Vipul wrote:

>
>
>> Theoretically, it should mostly be a matter of names not semantics.
>> At the top-most levels there seems to be a strong correspondence.
>> Since, the POMR ontology only uses a handful of DOLCE terms, I'll  
>> take
>>  a stab at trying to find equivalence in OBI / BFO.  This way, we can
>> easily determine where these foundations do not account for the  
>> kind of
>> semantics you need for clinical data (such as diagnostic actions,  
>> their
>> interpretations, etc.).
>
> [VK] I am not sure whether I would agree on this. Some times  
> conceptualizations
> can differ widely, for example the notion of a process across  
> different domains.
> It is much more than a matter of naming.
>
> Interestingly this was triggered by your definition of process  
> location which I
> did not like (since I was viewing it from the perspective of a  
> computational
> process).
>
> I was wondering if you could try to find the correspondence in the  
> context of a
> use case probably involving process. For example, how about the  
> following:
>
> (A) Define the notion of disease as a biological process using BFO  
> and DOLCE
> primitives.
> (B) Define the notion of disease as a clinical care process using  
> BFO and DOLCE
> primitives.
>
> This will help create bridges across the HCLS domains? As posted  
> earlier, the
> wiki page is at:
>
> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/ 
> BFOProcessDefinitionDiscussion
>
> Cheers,
>
> ---Vipul
>
>
>
>
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