Re: A question on the vocabulary for 'persons'

For experiment publishing ontology, I need a Person class to represent
anybody involved in the research community. Here are the list of required
properties in the current SPE specs.  I specifically point out the closest
FOAF terms if available and their mismatched datat ypes.

foaf:name
foaf:title
spe:jobTitle  no FOAF term
spe:role   no FOAF term
dc:type
dc:subject
spe:expertise   no FOAF term
foaf:interest
spe:hasPublication   URI of a Publication resource, but foaf:publications is
a foaf:Document, not specific enough
spe:currentProject   URI of a Project resource, but foaf:currentProject is a
owl:thing, not specific enough
spe:pastProject     URI of a Project resource, but foaf:pastProject is a
owl:thing, not specific enough
foaf:fundedBy
spe:inGroup    URI of a Group resource, no foaf term
spe:inOrganization     no foaf term
spe:workContact     a blank node for work contact info like address and
phone #; but foaf does not have these basic contact info
spe:altwebpage    URL of any web page that is about this person; could use
foaf:homepage

AJ


On 9/13/06, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>
> AJ,
>
> thanks for this answer. Would it be possible to elaborate a little bit
> on what problems you have hit wen trying to use vCard (or FOAF)? It
> would certainly help us in understanding the issues...
>
> Thanks
>
> Ivan
>
> AJ Chen wrote:
> > In developing SPE ontology, I have tried to re-use FOAF and vCard, but
> > unfortunately found little can can be re-used. One main reason is that,
> > although they may have the terms, the definitions of these terms usually
>
> > don't match what's required by the Person class in SPE ontology. The
> > problem mostly comes from the "range" of a ObjectProperty or
> DataProperty.
> >
> > I wish there was a Person class defined in RDF or OWL that can be
> > re-used in any application and easily extended to include special
> > properties in specific domains. Hope the next attempt by W3C will create
> > just that.
> >
> > AJ
> >
> > On 9/12/06, *kei cheung* < kei.cheung@yale.edu
> > <mailto:kei.cheung@yale.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     Hi Ivan et al.,
> >
> >     Based on my limited experience, a person in the life science and
> >     healthcare context can be considered as a subject or patient (which
> can
> >     be a subclass of person). Of course, there are other roles a person
> can
> >     play (e.g., doctors, researchers, and authors). For genetic studies,
> a
> >     group of subjects/indviduals may be a family/pedigree. In this case,
> >     relationships among these  family members may include Father_of,
> >     Mother_of, Child_of, etc. Other types of relationships can be
> inferred
> >     (e.g., uncle, sibling, etc). For popualtion genetics, we need to
> know,
> >     for example, the ethnicity of the subjects and the geographical
> >     information about the population to which the subjects belong. There
> can
> >     be mutliple types of ID's (e.g., patient id, cell line id, etc)
> >     associated with a person (whether the person is a subject or
> patient).
> >     Sometimes a dummy person (not a real person) is needed to fill in
> the
> >     missing data ( e.g., in linkage data analysis). I am not exactly
> clear
> >     how these specific HCLS use cases of persons would impact the
> generic
> >     modeling of person. Maybe this is something we all need to think
> more
> >     about. This is just my 2-cent thought.
> >
> >     Best,
> >
> >     -Kei
> >
> >
> >     Ivan Herman wrote:
> >
> >     >Dear all,
> >     >
> >     >we would need some feedback...
> >     >
> >     >There were some brainstorming on what vocabularies to use for the
> >     simple
> >     >notion of 'Person' in various settings. There is old W3C note for
> >     an RDF
> >     >version of vCard[1], but another version was created by Norm Walsh
> a
> >     >while ago[2]. And, of course, there is FOAF.
> >     >
> >     >The issue came up because some people would like us to update the
> old
> >     >[1] note but, if we want to do that seriously, it is not
> necessarily
> >     >that easy (the vCard spec itself is not soooo o.k.).
> >     >
> >     >Hence the question as a feedback: what does the HCLS community use
> for
> >     >something like 'Person'?
> >     >
> >     >Thanks for the feedback
> >     >
> >     >Ivan
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/vcard-rdf
> >     >[2] http://norman.walsh.name/2005/12/12/vcard
> >     < http://norman.walsh.name/2005/12/12/vcard>
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > AJ Chen, PhD
> > http://web2express.org
>
> --
>
> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
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>
>
>


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