Re: A question on the vocabulary for 'persons'

AJ,

thanks for this answer. Would it be possible to elaborate a little bit
on what problems you have hit wen trying to use vCard (or FOAF)? It
would certainly help us in understanding the issues...

Thanks

Ivan

AJ Chen wrote:
> In developing SPE ontology, I have tried to re-use FOAF and vCard, but
> unfortunately found little can can be re-used. One main reason is that,
> although they may have the terms, the definitions of these terms usually
> don't match what's required by the Person class in SPE ontology. The
> problem mostly comes from the "range" of a ObjectProperty or DataProperty.
> 
> I wish there was a Person class defined in RDF or OWL that can be
> re-used in any application and easily extended to include special
> properties in specific domains. Hope the next attempt by W3C will create
> just that.
> 
> AJ
> 
> On 9/12/06, *kei cheung* <kei.cheung@yale.edu
> <mailto:kei.cheung@yale.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hi Ivan et al.,
> 
>     Based on my limited experience, a person in the life science and
>     healthcare context can be considered as a subject or patient (which can
>     be a subclass of person). Of course, there are other roles a person can
>     play (e.g., doctors, researchers, and authors). For genetic studies, a
>     group of subjects/indviduals may be a family/pedigree. In this case,
>     relationships among these  family members may include Father_of,
>     Mother_of, Child_of, etc. Other types of relationships can be inferred
>     (e.g., uncle, sibling, etc). For popualtion genetics, we need to know,
>     for example, the ethnicity of the subjects and the geographical
>     information about the population to which the subjects belong. There can
>     be mutliple types of ID's (e.g., patient id, cell line id, etc)
>     associated with a person (whether the person is a subject or patient).
>     Sometimes a dummy person (not a real person) is needed to fill in the
>     missing data ( e.g., in linkage data analysis). I am not exactly clear
>     how these specific HCLS use cases of persons would impact the generic
>     modeling of person. Maybe this is something we all need to think more
>     about. This is just my 2-cent thought.
> 
>     Best,
> 
>     -Kei
> 
> 
>     Ivan Herman wrote:
> 
>     >Dear all,
>     >
>     >we would need some feedback...
>     >
>     >There were some brainstorming on what vocabularies to use for the
>     simple
>     >notion of 'Person' in various settings. There is old W3C note for
>     an RDF
>     >version of vCard[1], but another version was created by Norm Walsh a
>     >while ago[2]. And, of course, there is FOAF.
>     >
>     >The issue came up because some people would like us to update the old
>     >[1] note but, if we want to do that seriously, it is not necessarily
>     >that easy (the vCard spec itself is not soooo o.k.).
>     >
>     >Hence the question as a feedback: what does the HCLS community use for
>     >something like 'Person'?
>     >
>     >Thanks for the feedback
>     >
>     >Ivan
>     >
>     >
>     >[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/vcard-rdf
>     >[2] http://norman.walsh.name/2005/12/12/vcard
>     <http://norman.walsh.name/2005/12/12/vcard>
>     >
>     >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> AJ Chen, PhD
> http://web2express.org

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