Re: Schema.org 3.9 release draft for review

Hi Phil
Thanks for that information.

Haha yes it's true that an assertion is by no means proof. It's just that,
at the moment, the assertions are all made ad-hoc in a chunk of content
text in the Person's profile page and I was looking for a tidy way to
structure that.

I wasn't aware of the existence of issuedBy and I think it would do the
trick if we assume that within the context of Person -> hasCredential ->
EducationalOccupationalCredential  the issuedBy would take on the meaning
that it has been awarded to that person by the
Organization/EducationalOrganization/ etc

The OpenBadge documentation looks interesting and I will be sure to check
that out too !

Thanks


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On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 at 13:15, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:

> Hello Hugo,
>
> [passing over the point that an assertion is not proof that a person holds
> a credential]
>
> You can use the offers property to say where a
> EducationalOccupationalCredential comes from, see the example on the
> EOCred wiki
> <https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Identify_who_offers_an_educational_occupational_credential>
> [0]
>
> But if that seems too indirect and disconnected from what you have in
> mind, I think that awardedBy would be a sensible addition to
> EducationalOccupationalCredential. It has close parallels in the Credential
> Engines CTDL offeredBy
> <https://credreg.com/ctdl/terms/offeredBy#offeredBy> [1] and IMS Open
> Badges issuer
> <https://www.imsglobal.org/sites/default/files/Badges/OBv2p0Final/index.html#BadgeClass>
> [2], and seems different to the existing recognizedBy
> <https://schema.org/recognizedBy> [3] and doesn't clash with existing
> schema.org concepts around offer/Offers.
> We could extend the domain of issuedBy <https://schema.org/issuedBy>
> (There is a discussion around this linked from the wiki page above, in it
> Vicki Tardif pretty much predicts this use case and solution--good call
> Vicki)
>
> On your question about credential category, this might be better:
>
> {
>     "@type": "EducationalOccupationalCredential",
>     "name": "MBA in Marketing"
>     "credentialCategory" :  "MBA"
> }
>
> Phil
>
>
> 0.
> https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Identify_who_offers_an_educational_occupational_credential
> 1. https://credreg.com/ctdl/terms/offeredBy#offeredBy
> 2.
> https://www.imsglobal.org/sites/default/files/Badges/OBv2p0Final/index.html#BadgeClass
> 3. https://schema.org/recognizedBy
> 4. https://schema.org/issuedBy
>
> On 02/08/2019 10:59, Hugo Scott wrote:
>
> Hi thanks for posting this
>
> EducationalOccupationalCredential is exactly what I've been looking for in
> Schema markup as I would like to be able to prove the credentials and
> authority of people writing our financial articles.
>
> I see that there is the "recognizedBy" property but what I would love to
> see would be something like an "awardedBy" property, to open up the
> possibility of adding an "EducationalOrganization", something like this
> (I'm not sure I've used the "credentialCategory" correctly) :
>
>         "author": {
>         "@type": "Person",
>             "name": "John Smith",
>             "hasCredential":
>             {
>             "@type": "EducationalOccupationalCredential",
>                 "credentialCategory" :
>                 {
>                   "name": "MBA in Marketing"
>                 },
>                 "awardedBy":
>                 {
>                     "@type": "EducationalOrganization",
>                     "name":"Harvard",
>                     "url":"https://www.harvard.edu/"
>                 }
>             }
>         },
>
> I saw that AlumniOf exists but it doesn't have the same precision with
> regard to the credential obtained, so would something like "awardedBy" be a
> possibility for a future version?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 15:16, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Published: https://schema.org/docs/releases.html
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 15:12, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Schema.org Steering Group and wider community,
>>>
>>> https://webschemas.org/docs/releases.html is our draft for the upcoming
>>> (August 1st) Schema.org 3.9 release.
>>>
>>> Comments etc welcomed here or in Github (
>>> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2306) as usual,
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>> --
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