Re: Historical events

Maybe:
'Process' : Event subtype.
Process :startingEvent Event (causal relationship?);
Process :endingEvent Event;
Event :occursIn Process (property range).

This could allow for sub-process / events, overlapping processes / events,
order / causal relationship of processes / events modelling or inference?

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 9:11 PM Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ahaha, same idea as Simon 😂
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:06 PM Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Look, I'm no temporal expert or anything, but maybe the problem is in
>> English it could be a continuum from "event" to "period" as the interval of
>> time being named gets longer, with no clear boundary.
>>
>>     Mike's birthday party - an event
>>     The Middle Ages - a period
>>
>> Because from a data modeling point of view they're the same (at least as
>> far as my modeling knowledge goes).
>>
>> So an unpopular solution I'm guessing would be to rename the type to
>> *EventOrPeriod*.
>>
>> So your previous example:
>>
>>     The Black Death
>>         superEventOrPeriod: The Middle Ages
>>
>> People's ideas?
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:10 PM Richard Wallis <
>> richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anthony,
>>>
>>> I’m not following your logic here.  I don’t see a Period (of time from a
>>> start time/date to an end date/time) as an event.
>>>
>>> ~Richard.
>>>
>>> Richard Wallis
>>> Founder, Data Liberate
>>> http://dataliberate.com
>>> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
>>> Twitter: @rjw
>>>
>>> On 20 June 2018 at 00:05, Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That definitely works, but only if some definition of Period was agreed
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> The property periodEventOccurred would be a subproperty of superEvent
>>>> in any case:
>>>>
>>>> superEvent
>>>>
>>>>     periodEventOccurred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you could describe the same information using the existing term
>>>> right?
>>>>
>>>> The Black Death
>>>>
>>>>     superEvent: The Middle Ages
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anthony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:50 PM Richard Wallis <
>>>> richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Using a Period Type I would suggest a cleaner alternative way of
>>>>> saying an event occurred during a period would be like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> {
>>>>> "@context": "http://schema.org",
>>>>> "@type": "Event",
>>>>> "name": "The Black Death",
>>>>> "Description": "A pandemic that spread throughout Europe",
>>>>> "periodEventOccured": {
>>>>> "@type": "Period",
>>>>> "name": "The Middle Ages",
>>>>> "approximateStartDate": "400AD",
>>>>> "approximateEndDate":"1500AD"
>>>>> }
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 June 2018 at 23:41, Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was referencing the development version of Schema, I should
>>>>>> probably reference production, sorry Roger:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - https://schema.org/subEvent
>>>>>>    - https://schema.org/superEvent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To say some event happened during the Iron Age for example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Invention of iron plow
>>>>>>     superEvent: Iron Age
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:05 PM Muri, Allison <allison.muri@usask.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The google Cloud host is really slow and I think the 404 is a result
>>>>>>> of something loading too slowly. I could probably publish this more
>>>>>>> reliably on my own website! I generally just wait a bit and reload the
>>>>>>> page. Sorry about that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Roger Rohrbach <roger@ecstatic.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I get 404 Not Found for both of those pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Anthony Moretti <
>>>>>>> anthony.moretti@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isn't it already modeled by these properties?:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - https://webschemas.org/subEvent
>>>>>>>    - https://webschemas.org/superEvent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Events can exist in part-whole hierarchies, aren't named periods
>>>>>>> just events high in these hierarchies?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>