Re: Historical events

Look, I'm no temporal expert or anything, but maybe the problem is in
English it could be a continuum from "event" to "period" as the interval of
time being named gets longer, with no clear boundary.

    Mike's birthday party - an event
    The Middle Ages - a period

Because from a data modeling point of view they're the same (at least as
far as my modeling knowledge goes).

So an unpopular solution I'm guessing would be to rename the type to
*EventOrPeriod*.

So your previous example:

    The Black Death
        superEventOrPeriod: The Middle Ages

People's ideas?

Anthony

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:10 PM Richard Wallis <
richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:

> Anthony,
>
> I’m not following your logic here.  I don’t see a Period (of time from a
> start time/date to an end date/time) as an event.
>
> ~Richard.
>
> Richard Wallis
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>
> On 20 June 2018 at 00:05, Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That definitely works, but only if some definition of Period was agreed
>> on.
>>
>> The property periodEventOccurred would be a subproperty of superEvent in
>> any case:
>>
>> superEvent
>>
>>     periodEventOccurred
>>
>>
>> So you could describe the same information using the existing term right?
>>
>> The Black Death
>>
>>     superEvent: The Middle Ages
>>
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:50 PM Richard Wallis <
>> richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Using a Period Type I would suggest a cleaner alternative way of saying
>>> an event occurred during a period would be like this:
>>>
>>> {
>>> "@context": "http://schema.org",
>>> "@type": "Event",
>>> "name": "The Black Death",
>>> "Description": "A pandemic that spread throughout Europe",
>>> "periodEventOccured": {
>>> "@type": "Period",
>>> "name": "The Middle Ages",
>>> "approximateStartDate": "400AD",
>>> "approximateEndDate":"1500AD"
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> On 19 June 2018 at 23:41, Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was referencing the development version of Schema, I should probably
>>>> reference production, sorry Roger:
>>>>
>>>>    - https://schema.org/subEvent
>>>>    - https://schema.org/superEvent
>>>>
>>>> To say some event happened during the Iron Age for example:
>>>>
>>>> Invention of iron plow
>>>>     superEvent: Iron Age
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anthony
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:05 PM Muri, Allison <allison.muri@usask.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The google Cloud host is really slow and I think the 404 is a result
>>>>> of something loading too slowly. I could probably publish this more
>>>>> reliably on my own website! I generally just wait a bit and reload the
>>>>> page. Sorry about that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 19, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Roger Rohrbach <roger@ecstatic.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I get 404 Not Found for both of those pages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Anthony Moretti <
>>>>> anthony.moretti@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it already modeled by these properties?:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - https://webschemas.org/subEvent
>>>>>    - https://webschemas.org/superEvent
>>>>>
>>>>> Events can exist in part-whole hierarchies, aren't named periods just
>>>>> events high in these hierarchies?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>