Re: Creating new Schemas?

Hi Mr. Bean :-) ,

Some folks just use Roles for describing awards through "actions" of
achievements, winning, giving, receiving, etc.

https://schema.org/AchieveAction
https://schema.org/WinAction
https://schema.org/GiveAction
https://schema.org/ReceiveAction

There has been debate around the web however, on where "award"ing is
handled... either on "result" or "object" or both.  I never did look into
that deeply, but I think "result" is the right place for the Award Thing
type. (which we don't have, so just use Thing with "sameAs": "
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q618779" )

Best of luck !
-Thad

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:37 AM Martin Bean <martin@martinbean.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks, Martin. Much appreciated!
>
> My thinking of an award/championship schema was, it had applications
> outside of combat sports. All I can find currently is a simple, text-only
> property in https://schema.org/award. A proper Award schema could have
> properties for its name, description, as well as its recipients. So not
> only could it be used to represent things like championship titles but
> other bona fide awards such as the Academy Awards, Nobel Prizes, the FIFA
> World Cup, and so on.
>
> I will start drafting something more “official” and open a pull request in
> due course. Thanks again for the pointers!
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 14:59, Martin Hepp <mfhepp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>> in a nutshell, a small-sized pull-request on Github is the way to go. But
>> before you invest the work, you need to evaluate whether there is an actual
>> need and a sufficient interest by major consumers of schema.org data. We
>> typically do not extend the vocabulary for the sake of extending it; most
>> work is driven by immediate needs and hands-on use-cases.
>>
>> If you decide to go forward, here are few hints:
>>
>> - Write a concise and compelling motivation for your proposal and host it
>> somewhere.
>> - Start small. Even major extensions (hotels, auto, fibo, ...) had to be
>> very small in size. 1 - 2 new types plus a few properties are ideal. 5 - 9
>> might be if they cover a major new use-case. More than 20 is hardly
>> accepted.
>> - Deliver an end-to-end proposal, with
>>
>> ** well-crafted names and descriptions etc. that are consistent with
>> schema.org naming conventions
>> ** zero syntactical and conceptual errors, in particular the proper reuse
>> of existing elements
>> ** correct and carefully designed examples in all relevant syntaxes
>>
>> Your proposal must be convincing at first sight. Nobody will take the
>> effort for polishing your proposal or fixing conceptual or syntactical
>> flaws.
>>
>> It will be a lot of work to champion for such a proposal. A good start
>> will be smaller contributions, like crafting missing examples for existing
>> elements.
>>
>> For instance, https://schema.org/PropertyValue and
>> https://schema.org/additionalProperty took me almost two years from the
>> first proposal to acceptance.
>>
>> This is just my personal view, but based on a lot of experience.
>>
>> Please take this as advice and support, not discouragement.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> martin hepp  http://www.heppnetz.de
>> mhepp@computer.org          @mfhepp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 24 Jul 2018, at 15:43, Martin Bean <martin@martinbean.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > How does one go about getting involved in the
>> creation/drafting/proposing of new Schemas?
>> >
>> > I’m keen to work on establishing combat sport-related Schemas. The most
>> useful one for me right now would be an “award” or ”championship” schema.
>> >
>> > I’ve tried reaching out on GitHub and via email on information on how
>> to become more “involved” in the drafting and defining of Schemas, but
>> struggling to get any response.
>> >
>> > If someone could point me in the direction of a person or official
>> documentation on establishing Schemas, that would be most helpful.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Martin Bean
>> > Web developer, consultant, author, and speaker
>> >
>> > Website: martinbean.co.uk
>> > Twitter: @martinbean
>> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/martinbean
>> > Skype: mcbwebdesign
>>
>>
>
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>
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