Re: Eurocentrism, incorrect unit abbreviations, and proprietary Royalist Engish (sic) terms

This does not work. You can offer hotel rooms and entire hotels for sale or rental. The property of being "rentable" is orthogonal to the type of object and it thus makes no sense to materialize combinations.

But as Dan said and I also said recently: Let us always keep in mind that an important part of the members of the list are practioners interested in using schema.org for tangible business purposes, and evolving it to their needs. They will benefit from

- examples
- documentation
- tools
- directly usable domain extensions.

They will likely not benefit from proposals that lack an immediate practical purpose.

Schema.org does not need and will never be perfect; the consumers of the data are part of the game, because they can and will have to do part of the work for making the raw data usable.

Also, keep in mind that schema.org is an ecosystem, and many choices and actions have many side-effects - a lengthy philosophical debate may mke people tune off or unsubscribe that could provide important domain knowledge for an industry.

Best wishes
Martin

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> On 13 Jul 2018, at 09:38, Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It's the same as the earlier structure I proposed but with Individual renamed to Rentable, typical usage would be a campground with many rentable campsites. It compares to https://schema.org/docs/hotels.html in the following way Dan:
> 
> Place
>     Accommodation
>         RentableCampsite
>         Room
>             HotelRoom
>     Campsite
>         Campground
>         RentableCampsite
>     LocalBusiness
>         LodgingBusiness
>             Campground
>             Hotel
> 
> Organization
>     LocalBusiness
>         LodgingBusiness
>             Campground
>             Hotel
> 
> I'm from Australia and live in California and in my experience the numbered areas are referred to as campsites. Here is a government page that uses "campsite" in this way many times, even referring to a more specific type of campsite - a family campsite ("Family campsites accommodate up to eight (8) people.", www.parks.ca.gov/camping).
> 
> But anyway like I said, it's not about a preference for British or American English, it's about how to approach regions of space or time when larger regions can be made of smaller regions describable using the same term.
> 
> How does it break the GoodRelations model Martin? In any case I'm not proposing having GTIN at the level of Thing but it would be a fantastic approach anyway, it would be similar to what we currently have with faxNumber at the level of Place. But I know Product isn't going anywhere so don't worry even I would hate to open that can of worms right now.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:10 AM Webfeet <schema@webfeet.org> wrote:
> On 11/07/18 17:09, Martin Hepp wrote:
> 
> > Re more complicated:
> > The concept of MTEs is a bit more difficult to understand, some tools will not validate data properly, Microdata has non proper support for MTEs, and the approach for MTES varies by syntax (Microdata, RDFa, JSON-LD).
> 
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2018, 21:54 Anthony Moretti, <anthony.moretti@gmail.com 
> <mailto:anthony.moretti@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> > ... I would actually prefer to not have CampingPitch at all and use 
> > MTEs, but from reading this thread it seems that approach has its 
> > problems.
> 
> On 13/07/18 08:04, Dan Brickley wrote:
> 
> > How does that compare with the pattern in 
> > https://schema.org/docs/hotels.html ?
> 
> https://schema.org/docs/hotels.html does include a statement that:
> 
>     The markup for MTE's is very simple:
> 
> and indeed the example there is nice, tidy and straightforward.
> 
> I see that this doesn't address the tools/validation issues - but 
> Multiple Inheritance and MTE's are there (and long established?) and, to 
> this particular "Interested Observer", remarkably powerful.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>     Webfeet
> 
> 
>

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