RE: Issue variants

I see that WikiData covers some of these terms.

https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q4804740

https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q933530


Others could presumably be added as needed.

Wasn’t Schema.org considering the use of WikiData for enumerations awhile back?

Jeff

From: Tom Adamich [mailto:vls@tusco.net]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 11:45 AM
To: 'Richard Wallis'
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Subject: RE: Issue variants

…Sounds logical, Richard.

I’m not a comic book expert either; however, I do understand your attempt to establish the framework for enumeration within this particular type (using the comic book lexicon Henry references in his discussion).

Again, the ultimate goal being to enhance the search experience using targeted vocabulary familiar to the population(s) served.

Take care.

Tom

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Subject: Re: Issue variants

Not being an aficionado of comics, these look like an enumeration of issue types to me.

If my assumption is correct my first question is, is there an external source for these and other types we could reference from a new property such as comicIssueType - or would there be few enough of them, the meaning of which are generally understood, for an enumeration type to be proposed with a small set of enumeration types.  This would be similar in principle to BookFormatType<http://schema.org/BookFormatType>, plus Hardcover<http://schema.org/Hardcover>, EBook<http://schema.org/EBook>, etc.

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On 5 October 2015 at 12:16, Tom Adamich <vls@tusco.net<mailto:vls@tusco.net>> wrote:
Great discussion.

However, are we really talking about “issue” here?  Should work be done to build out the properties associated with ComicIssue https://bib.schema.org/ComicIssue ?

Should the following be included?

•         One shot

•         Ashcan

•         Complete run

•         Key issue

•         Warehouse copy

I’m trying to work within the lexicon of the comic book industry as a means of targeting the search experience.

Thanks for the educational opportunity.

Tom

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From: hha1@cornell.edu<mailto:hha1@cornell.edu> [mailto:hha1@cornell.edu<mailto:hha1@cornell.edu>]
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 3:00 AM
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Subject: Issue variants

Hi folks,
  Variants are an active topic of discussion within the GCD right now.  I see that you have a variantCover description field, which handles one of the most common cases.  However, there are a number of "variants" in GCD terminology.  Newsstand vs direct distribution.  Price variants.  Some publishers published versions of issues with ads and without ads.  Etc.

  If you want to handle more types of variants than just covers, I would recommend considering changing "variantCover" to "variantName" or something similar.  Depending on how much detail you want to get into, I can talk about how we're considering putting some more structure around variants, as collectors care a lot about some types (incentive covers) but less about others (newsstand vs direct).

  There is also the question of how to refer to an issue in general, without specifying a particular variant.  We haven't actually sorted that out- it's a topic from the past week or two.

  I'm not trying to get the schema to handle every little thing here, I'm just trying to raise topics that have caused us difficulty.  I'll happily drop any topic deemed out of scope.

thanks,
-henry